Judging the debate: a point by point analysis

[Final-Fan]

Norris2k said:

Final-Fan said:

So ... on that basis you are saying "although Trump is 100 times worse, Clinton is still bad".  I can go along with that. 

No, I'm saying that Clinton is very bad, one of the worst candidate ever, and that should not be dismissed. And so is Trump, and that should also not be dismissed. My opinion is that Clinton is by far worst, yours is that Trump is by far worst, and that's fine But that should be an educated choice, based on what one value the most, what risks one see and accepts to take, and not about dismissing any fault from one candidate, and trashing the other candidate and voters like most websites, forumers, channels, and candidates do. When I saw your post, I was like "ah... again... this is hopeless". Would you not feel better if Trump supporters when they saw the debate would honestly think and say "he was very bad, and not convincing at all" and take account of it, rather than saying "no, Trump won the debate, he was greate, and we have (meaningless) online polls !" ?

But I mean ... let's say, for the sake of argument, that this money convinced Clinton not to take action against the Russian deal (while other people independently approved it).  That would be extremely bad.  But Trump set up a fake university to scam people out of money.  Then he bribed a district attorney not to press charges (campaign donation right as the decision whether to press the investigation forward was taking place, IIRC the attorney was the one to ask for the money but he still gave it).  There is literally a scandal breaking RIGHT NOW about illegally breaking the embargo that was on Cuba for decades (although the embargo was just recently lifted this took place many years ago).  The only reason Clinton looks like she is in the same galaxy as Trump when it comes to corruption is that the light has been shining on her a lot harder.  I agree that the light should shine hard.  But it's exposing a lot more on Trump.