By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Machiavellian on 22 September 2016
Edit Thread
Norris2k said:
Machiavellian said:

Does this statement sound like she is advocating military action as in ground troops but cybertroops

"We need to respond to evolving threats from states like Russia, China, Iran and North Korea," Clinton said in the speech. "We need a military that is ready and agile so it can meet the full range of threats and operate on short notice across every domain – not just land, sea, air and space but also cyberspace."

Are you 2 stating that our military should not be capable of handling and responding to cyberattacks and should not treat those threats as if they were harmfull to theUS.  If any one of those countries knockout our infratstructure, banks, city and local government through cyberattacks how do you think we should respond?

What I'm refering to is "Russia is even hacking in the Democratic National Commity. Maybe even some state elections. So we have to step up our game. Make sure we are well defended, and ready to take the fight to those that go after us. [...] We will be ready with serious political, economical and military responses.". Even if you imply that this cyber counter attack, you do not make a bold statement about military answer to Russia.

USA is hacking a lot of countries, wikileaks proved even close allies like germany and France, and certainly Russia and China. Do you want them to take military measures, including cyber attacks ? That's now how it works, we are talking about cyber espionnage, everyone do it, everyone has to protect itself against it, and that's just how the game is.

Here she specifically point at espionnage and leaks from Russia, which as far as I know is not even proven, and which should not lead to any military response. Because how do you think Russia would react to a military response ? We are talking about ending the world here, that's totally crazy.

If a country knockout anything, that is an act of war, this is China/Russia or whatever declaring war on USA. This should be not linked in the same speech with DNC hacking, which is a whole different topic.

They already are taking military measure.  This is nothing new and pretty much par for the course.  Are you saying that any president should not be willing to use our military if someone attacks us no matter how the attack is done.  There are many institutions that can fall prey to cyberattacks that directly effect and cripple the US.  Just because someone behind a computer did the act instead of shooting a gun does not mean the act doesn't have the same reach and ramifications.

Saying we will respond to attacks with everything the US has including military is pretty much par.  If another nation hacked us that caused loss of life or damange to our infrastructure then what do you think any president would do.  You are isolating one word but not looking at the whole picture which is that the statement mentioned multiple measures we would take.