Face it. It is over. Trump won.

[Mr Puggsly]

Soundwave said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Well its a great thing we didn't occupy, because things are great now. I get what you're saying though, but its evident things aren't gonna get better there until the threat is annihilated and Obama did not encrouage that. But I hope people have learned you can't just ignore evil.

Well illegal Mexicans do make up a vast majority of crime commited by illegal aliens. Mexico is our neighbor and its clearly a country with a lot of problems. Nobody is suggesting a wall for Canada for obvious reasons. People will interpret the Trump Mexicans speech to what fits the narrative they want. Democrats want us all to believe it was a racist speech, but the real intent of that speech was to be tougher on criminal illegals which are mostly from Mexico. Had he said it differently there wouldn't be a discussion, it was the biggest blunder Trump has made in his campaign.

People say Bush lied, but wasn't there a lot of intelligence saying Iraq had WMDs? Either way, I'm of a small minority that seems to think the world is better with Saddam dead. I just wish more was done to bring sanity to the middle east, because ignoring it and hoping things get better was never an option.

If you want stability in the Middle East so bad, why don't you go over there and fight for it? Sign up for the Marines, they're always looking for fresh recruits. It's easy to say to other people they should risk their lives to go fight in a country which in reality doesn't have much to do with America. 

The "ISIS inspired" attacks in the US killed 16 people in San Bernandino and 49 in that Florida nightclub (which I still suspect was also motivated by a guy who was basically gay himself, what shooter "scopes" out a gay nightclub ... for several years, the drink specials were that good?).

More people have died in "regular" school shootings in the US. 

Since 9/11 there's likely been more people killed in America by bee stings per year on average than a terrorist attack. Should we declare war on the bees too?

Mexican immigrants commit less crime than the average American actually as well:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

Trump is pandering to a racist section of the right wing by pushing this narrative. If you want to be a "criminal", it's far easier to do so in Mexico, why the fuck would you come to America for that? It's a lot easier to live that life style and you can bribe your way out jail time there, you'd have to be a dumb ass to do that in the US where people get life in prison for smoking a joint three times. Most Mexicans coming here are people who just want a better life for their kids and willing to work cleaning up shit stained toilet bowls and puke stained bed sheets and picking fruit in blazing heat for 60 hours a week for pennies on the dollar. 

Okay, maybe I will go. I got some free time. Bottom line, the world doesn't get better when we just sit around. You can't ignore evil and that's why we drop bombs and send in the drones, but it evidently doesn't solve the problem entirely.

I don't think you got all the ISIS inspired killings... but the ones you mentioned are a good start. Perhaps the attacks in Europe are worth a mention as well. Fortunately we do stop some before they can attack as well. Frankly, its a problem you fight before it gets worse.

I can post links too! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/undocumented-immigrants-increasingly-filling-arizona-prisons/

Why come to America to be a criminal? Too much competition in Mexico? Even the police will rob you in Mexico and that's not a joke.

I live in Arizona and I totally see the value of Mexican's in this country, but we can let in what we need legally. US citizens pay the taxes and our safety should be the priority, so at the very least we should track who is here illegally for our safety and deal with the criminals. Simply doing that would make people more comfortable with our illegal population.