Best TV for PS4 Pro?

[Azuren]

SvennoJ said:

Azuren said:

OLED loses too much grayscale to be considered good at blacks; OLED also has a very short lifespan, only three years until the blues begin degrading; OLED is subject to burn in, making it less than ideal for extended gaming sessions; the OLEDs (from LG) also lack a noise algorithm, meaning artifacting will become an issue as well.

In the review they call it a little imperfection in the darker colors

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b6

You're right, that's pretty bad for games where you're wandering around in the dark a lot of the times.
Btw they don't call it burn in anymore, image retention is the new phrase, as it clears up after a few hours or days. Not great. Start a movie after a game and see the HUD imposed until it fades away?

I did not know they still had a short lifespan with colors fading over time. I had the same with an expensive plasma tv, was great at first, is pretty faded now. And had burn in too from 4:3 content. Basically the only way to watch 4:3 content is to zoom or stretch it to get rid of the color difference where the borders are.

What's the problem with artifacting? The tv doesn't generate the noise I hope? Or does it show up with streaming content and cable tv? (I don't think any noise algorithm can clean up the stuff they sell here as HD cable lol) But yeah I can see that sharp drop off in the lower brightness amplifying any visible artifacting.

Oh, well, CAD 6,000 saved. (too much here anyway)

They're still good tvs, a friend of mine has one and says it's great. (Has it less than a year though)

Noise algorithms generate noise, and for an important reason.

 

When a smart TV takes an image, it doctors it. A bunch of little things to make the image cleaner. Unfortunately, this generates artifacts from "mistakes". Noise algorithms generate a light noise over the image to help render those artifacts unseen, while also remaining light enough to be unseen from a reasonable viewing distance. Not enough, and you see the artifacts. Too much, and you see the noise. LG has an issue with the former, and Panasonic with the latter. Samsung uses noise algorithms as well, but dial them back significantly to retain a "clean" image at the expense of visible artifacting. Sony, on the other hand, found the sweet spot, but even that sweet spot will have visible noise from around 2 feet away. So to keep your game free of nasty artifacts, a Sony is the best choice. 

 

The colors fading is an issue of where those colors come from. The chemicals they use have a half-life, so it sets a definitive lifespan on the panel. Sony actually makes the world's best OLED panel (it's used in studio production for movies like Angry Birds), but the blues go bad even faster; only 6 months until degradation. 

 

And I assure you, that "image retention" is not temporary, and it will stick.