Is Trump's real agenda to monetize the fringe right wing base?

[Machiavellian]

fatslob-:O said:

Final-Fan said:

1.  I never said it was a requirement.  I said that presidential candidates have done it routinely for decades to demonstrate to the voting public that they have nothing to hide as far as their personal financial situation goes, and the natural inference to draw from Trump's refusal to do so is that he does have something to hide in that regard.  Not necessarily something illegal, but perhaps it would show that he has been lying about something that he has been claiming in the campaign about his business acumen. 

I sympathize with the viewpoint of "don't do something purely because it's tradition", but there is actually a reason why the public should want to know as much as reasonably possible about prospective Presidents.  Do you disagree? 

2.  "The constitution" is a pretty bad answer.  If the existence of the constitution guaranteed that a president would do a good job and not abuse the powers of the office, Nixon would be remembered as one of our better presidents.  For that matter, why are you worried about Hillary Clinton if all you need to do to prevent abuse of power is to remind her that the constitution exists? 

I will ask you again, if Trump's promises are worthless except in the context of a binding legal document, what binding legal document exists to assure us that Trump has any intention whatsoever of doing any of the things he has promised you he would do?  Maybe he'd be happy to let ISIS through immigration for $10,000 per terrorist, cash only.  As long as he could find a constitutional way to do it.  He doesn't want to build a wall, and if he did he wouldn't make Mexico pay for it.  He'd make New Mexico pay for it, and tell us he didn't specify "which Mexico" he was talking about. 

I don't disagree that the public should want to know about presidential candidates as much as possible but they have the right to whether or not to disclose that information at hand and what reason would he have to lie about his business acumen ? There's more evidence to say that he's filthy rich from the financial discloure form rather than not ... 

The consititution doesn't distinguish good job or bad job, only boundaries. The difference between Trump and Clinton is that his interests are not easily bought with money when he is stinking rich so his integrity is far more protected than her's when you have to pay for a much more hefty price to even affect him and money matters even less with his existing age and fortune ... (Not like he'll care about extra cash once the grim reaper nears towards him.)

Hillary Clinton belongs to the establishment that's full of neoconservatives. Trump is the antithesis of establishments. His "I don't care" attitude in politics makes him all the more infallible to corruption when he doesn't give a damn about any parties so systematic corruption gets minimized in the process too if you can seperate political parties from power. Trump succeeded in taking power away from the republican party since it was easier to do so when it doesn't have superdelegates ... 

Also current law pretty much makes it impossible to not be persecuted for accepting bribes for handing out visa's automatically ... 

Machiavellian said:

Nothing really for me to learn.  You have not provided an answer or defended the position.  Hillary is getting killed because she is preceived a liar.  Why would this be any different for Trump.  As I asked before, what other means can we judge Trump character if not how he does business.  Since he has served no political office, the only way voters can judge him is based on his track record as a businesman and one he used as his political platform.

You should not confer professional life being the same as a personal life. The former is far more pragmatic. Why not go see what Trump's closest and longest known associates think of him or other former collegues if you want a fair judgement of his character ? They would know more about his character far more than anyone else here would ... 

Character is character no matter how you slice it.  If you do dishonest business in your business life you will do the same in your personal life.  You cannot tell me there is a difference.  There is no pragmatic way to cheat your partners or screw your associates or lie to get what you want.  Those are qualities within the person and not some tactic of business.  I do not need to look to Trump closes friends to know his character, instead I use the tried and true technique of looking at his actions.  Actions will always speak louder than any words because words are a tool of the con man.

 I am sure if I asked a drug lord closes friends about his character they probably would say great things but does that excuse that person actions.  How many times have you heard people who knew serial murders say what a great person he/she was at least around them.  As I stated before, there is a body of work on Trump because he loves the spotlight so I have judged him on what he has shone me.