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eva01beserk said:
zero129 said:

1. You can buy a competitive machine now for €500.

2. How so? Free online, Cheaper games etc. id imagine long term a user will save more on pc.

3. Really? then what exactly is the PS4pro?.

4. This is subjective.

1. No you cant. Unless you want to go with used parts and thats still hard unles you dont count windows mouse keybord monitor like pc fans like to exclude.

2. Leave it to an enthusiast to spend $800+ on a rig to then buy $5 games on steam sales that have long since left peoples interest. I highly doubt that people build expensive machines to play old games, if you wwant high graphics and efects you will want to see them on the best and newest titles. And on consoles you dont pay just for online, you know I get 6 free games a month for having ps+, thats 72 free games a year for $60, I dont even play online.

3. Lasted 3 years. You get a competive pc and you cant garanty it will still play the new games at the desired resolution and frames. You cant even garanty the mother board will suport the new chips and might just have to get  whole new pc that will cost you more than a console. This releases just showed that, at least for amd, no clue about nvidia.

4. what is subjective is if you like thouse games or not, but the amount of quality exclusives is higher on consoles.

1. that is a silly argument. PC gamers exlcude monitor mouse windows monitor keyboard etc for the exact same reason console gamers exclude the TV as part of the cost. They generally move between machines.

3. given the intragenerational upgrades happening now with PS and Xbox we will have exactly the same problem with consoles where games will be running at compromised resolutions or frame rates depending on the version of the console you have.

the reality is PC and console markets are different. and while they are getting a little closer together the PS4Pro doesn't compete with a PC and PC doesn't compete with a PS4Pro, the markets barely overlap at the edges and nothing now or announced for the next year or two looks to be changing that.