George Soros files leaked. Schemes from the NWO...

[Machiavellian]

fatslob-:O said:

Machiavellian said:

The link I provided shows how Trump does not keep deals.  How he will sell people one thing and then renege on those deals the moment he gets what he wants.  In the link you provided if you go back and read how Trump secured the loans for the Chiago tower it was because he sold more than 500 million worth of appartments prior to construction.  The problem with that is that Trump sold those appartments for a huge discount and when the building was complete and people started to move in he jacked up the price.

Here is another link to Trump corruption.  You know its very plain that Trump knows how to move around political circles just like any politician.  Not only that but I highly doubt that anything will change besides Trump making sure to help people with money like himself secure even better deals if he becomes president.

http://wgntv.com/2016/02/17/donald-trumps-multi-million-dollar-chicago-tax-break/

As for our national debt, the only way we go to default is we cannot pay our bills.  You are making up stuff that has nothing to do with the government paying its bill compared to just not paying it like what Trump promoted.  The key is that deciding to just not pay our bills to renegotiate treasury bills that already have a very low rate any way would totally undermine our economy.  Thinking we should have defaulted on our debt shows exactly the kind of thinking that would plunge this nation into hell on earth.  Do you even know how the government pays it debt.  Here is a link for you to digest first.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/business/how-the-government-pays-its-debt/513/

Its good you bring up Clinton because if you take the link I gave and apply that with the surplus of money coming into the goverment, meaning we brought in more money than we spent.  Here is a link that disproves what you say.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

After Clinton under Bush well we know what happen to the debt and our ability to balance the budget.

Well thank god we got that cleared up that lie about Trump having a bailout and say whatever you want about his business tactics as I'm not interested with another long winded engagement ... 

Whether you can't pay for the debt or you increase the debt ceiling, you undermine the economy either way. Sooner or later you're going to struggle in keeping up tax revenue with interest rates and boom! Soon your nation will find itself defaulting one way or another. Our future is a default regardless of what happens unless we decide to cut back on benefits and raise taxes to pay for our debt ... 

That link from factcheck doesn't disprove at all what I said when it's misleading at best ... 

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/30

According to the above you and factcheck fell into the On-budget/Off-budget vs Trust Funds trap. You can't claim social security trust fund as income since that's a LOAN as you also get a bill in the end with interest rates along with that cash so it becomes obvious to any amateur accountant like myself that the Clinton administration NEVER had any real surplus or even a balanced budget like they claimed! Any professional accountant would've called bullshit on the Clinton's claim of having ever balanced the budget ...

And yes I know how the government pays our bills, at least more than you would since I didn't confuse a loan as a pure asset (If anything it's more of a liability since you have to pay interest on that borrowed money.) hwoever that doesn't mean that I can't argue that the way their going about it is absolutely flawed and especially in the wake of how slow the US economy is growing ... 

Fatslob, you cannot spin that Clinton did not balanced the budget.  Even within that link it specifically stated that without SS it was still a surplus so not sure what you tangent is.  You are beginning to make stuff up to support your point of view and not actually reading the whole site.  You are trying to give me an opinion while I gave you a fact.  I believe I will just trust the numbers from the fact check site then your opinion on the matter.