bigtakilla said:
JWeinCom said:
Oy. You didn't see conjunction junction did you? School house rock? Conjunction junction what's your function? You don't seem to grasp the basic fact that the "same experience" part and the "improved visuals" part are in separate clauses. The "improved visuals" are specifically excluded from "same experience" by the conjunction "but".
Conjunctions are used to separate two clauses within a sentence. the type of conjunction dictates what the relationship between the two clauses are. The conjunction "but" shows contrast. When the word "but" is used, that means the second part of the sentence goes against the first part.
It's like if I said "I like fruits, but I hate peaches." And you said " see, he likes fruits".
For a better example, if I said "Identical twins are the same, but they have different fingerprints" that means that the different finger prints clause goes against the same clause. Does that mean that the finger prints are not very different? No, of course not. All we know is that they are different. And this is the exact same sentence structure of the quote you provided.
If a Nintendo executive says "It's the same experience, but will feature improved visuals", the "but" part shows that the second clause (but features improved visuals) contrasts the first part (It's the same experience). It tells us that the experience is the same with the exception of the improved visuals. It in no way tells us how improved the visuals are.
Your lack of understanding of how the word "but" functions illustrate a deep deficiency in your reading comprehension. And, that's fine, we all make mistakes. But arguing when that mistake is clearly pointed out to you is pretty embarassing, especially in such an arrogant manner.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/conjunctions-contrasting
Hope that helps.
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But if the question was do you like fruits, and I say he roughly likes all of them, I'm not wrong just because you don't like peaches.
Visually they are going to be the same experience, which means no major upgrades to the graphics. They can be "improved", but that is a very broad term.
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"It's like if I said "I like fruits, but I hate peaches." And you said " see, he likes fruits"."
I just wrote that part wrong. What I meant to say was,
"It's like if I said "I like fruits, but I hate peaches." And you said " see, he likes fruits, so he must like peaches." The point, which I clarified with the next example anyway, is that you're focusing on the first clause of the sentence, and essentially ignoring the second.
You're also changing the quote. It does not say that they will visually be the same experience. You added the word visually on your own. It says the game will be the same experience, but (there's that key word) the graphics will be improved. And, the word improved wasn't even used in the first place, that's another made up addition. Here's what was actually said.
"@ArcadeGirl64 Yup, Aounuma said same to me. Same experience. Just different visuals."
Improved is a reasonable inference, but it's important that the actual word used was different. Different does not mean the same experience, it means the exact opposite of that. I'm pretty sure you're not going to aruge that "different" means somehow means "same". Clearly, the implication was that the games were the same in other regards (sound, gameplay) but not visually.
So, fear not. Your curse of being right has been broken.
