Collectibles should ALWAYS be found through an in game mechanic or displayed on map.

[Xen]

arcaneguyver said:

fielding88 said:
In Uncharted 4, there's a jeep level where you have to collect a bunch of crap on this volcano mid-way through, and if you make the stupid mistake of driving over a small ledge, you can't go back and get stuff you missed without restarting the level and going through a big gunfight/lots of driving.

 

If Naughty Dog has one weak spot, it is certainly their combination of making you scavenge like a druggee desperate for his next dose in cinematic games with aggressive autosave. Reading this topic makes me smile, as I think back to my days of GTA3, Donkey Kong 64, and the first inFamous. I like collectibles, but they can be fucking maddening.

Yeesh, yes. I am still surprised that I have found the last shard or whatever that was within maybe two hours of running around the map mad, pressing R3.

...could be worse. Lots, lots of worse.