Cost of UHD Blu Ray - Is MS subsidizing Xbone S, or is Sony just milking it?

[Ganoncrotch]

Intrinsic said:

Ganoncrotch said:

As for the actual people who were keen to get the Neo, I think the lack of the disk drive which a low enough % of users used for Sony to decide not to include... is a fine compromise for that amount of Teraflops at $399 in a 2016 console, amazing power for cost.

I habe to agree... I didn't even notice they didkt say anything about a4k BR drive until after the show here on the forums. I really couldn't care less about it. Then again, I probably would have bought the PS4p even if it came without a disc drive period. 

mutantsushi said:

I don't think I ever put forth a theory as to WHY Sony chose their current configuration, either here or in other threads.
I haven't claimed that Sony IS in fact milking it.  That really depends on the costs involved, doesn't it?  That's what I want to clarify.
You put forth a theory that seems to suggest 4K BD costs $100, and propose we hypothesize about the results of that...
As I made clear in the first post, I'd really rather get the actual cost numbers clear first, before discussing fantasy cost scenarios that aren't real.

I'm not suggesting that it costs $100. i think the first thing i said in my post was i dount it cost more than $50. But also went onto say that it could veey well cost more than that beig that i also think the consoles domt cost more than $220 to make. 

And I arrived at that from the cost of the Fat XB1. At one point they were being sold for as little as $270. The XB1s should cost less to make. Barring whatever the cost of the drive is. And i don't think MS is in a position now to be chasing profits on hardware. So they are probably selling it with very very very low margins. If not at a loss.... tho I doubt that. 

Aye maybe, there is a lot of people who still enjoy taking some of the edge off massive game installs by buying the disk version of things like Fallout and The Witcher 3, but at the same time, the majority of my PS4 games are all digital so I rarely find myself putting a disk in the drive and I still haven't found myself watching the one Blu ray that I got free when I bought my PS3 lol.