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Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

It's already happened, the genie is already out of the bottle. 

The only way to keep the traditional console cycle would've been for Sony to stick to their guns and not release a PS4 Pro period. One PS4 for 5-6 years, no if,s ands, or buts, now that Sony caved and we know MS wants to go in that direction ... it's likely caused a domino effect that won't be stopped. 

The systems are basically just PCs in a box anyway now, the days of consoles being something exotic and different are over too, guess they might as well become PC like in their sales structure too. You can't even pop a game in without having to install some damn 1929282 GB patch. 

Being able to say "yeah but it's still a Playstation .... FOUR!" is just semantics at this point. They've destroyed the old model. The whole "forwards compatibility!" thing is straight outta the PC side too. 

I suppose every Slim model of every console ever released is also a sign of generationless?

 

Look, I get that you want MS to be right about this, but they aren't. If Sony and Nintendo have intention of releasing into new generations, but Microsoft doesn't, that doesn't mean we're generationless; it means MS is backing out.

MS and Sony are on the same side of the coin on this. 

It will take 2-3 years before you start seeing PS5-only games because developers are going to want to keep supporting these "mid-gen" consoles, and I can't blame them because those new consoles will be starting from 0, whereas these machines (Scoprio/PS4 Pro) will have userbases of tens of millions by say 2019. 

You're going to end up though in a cycle where effectively not many games are made for any specific hardware ... they have to work on multiple different spec points ... which is a direct betrayl of the original "console generation" concept wherein one game is made specifically for that specific generation of hardware. 

We already saw this with the PS3-PS4 and X360-XBOne transition, it will be far worse next time because of this, and that is in effect blurring the generation lines. 

Microsoft isn't doing anything Sony isn't, they're just making a better piece of hardware and taking a bit more time, but they're both doing the same thing.