Is Trump's real agenda to monetize the fringe right wing base?

[Machiavellian]

fatslob-:O said:

Machiavellian said:

Plain and simple, I do not care about the openness of Clinton.  She has absolutly nothing to do with what Trump is responsible for.  He want to run for POTUS and he is giving nothing but excuses as to why he will not release his tax forms.  Throwing Hillary into the mix is only a way to try and deflect his responsibility. Trump has not been open on anything that he does.  He is not open about his business deals, he is not open about his medical history / record and he isn't open about his Tax returns even though he could easily post the ones that are not under audit.  Finaicial disclosure do not show everything, its only one half of the equation.  Even the stuff Trump released in his disclosure only show revenue not income.  Trump is obligated to show full disclosure and it will matter to the demographic he needs in order to win.  So while you can give all the excuses you want for Trump, if he want to be like Ross Perot then he better get ready to release those returns.

The reason why Turmp should release his taxes is because it gives transparency into the things I listed before.  No one care what Ross Perot did because he was not representing either the Democrates or Republicans and he lost.  This is another sign that you choose to take the excuse instead of asking why we need to wait unil after the election.  That makes absolutly no sense because we already went down the character line.  He is already on record saying he would release his returns multiple times but when its time to deliver we get the excuses even though he can release his returns that are not being audited.    Anyway, if he is seeking public office as he is, its his responsibility.  Waiting until after the election only means that he is hiding something.  

Also why is wikileaks needed for dirt on Trump to validate if there is dirt??  I do not need wikileaks since there is enough info on Trump using just plain old google.

He's not obligated to show his tax returns, he doesn't need any other excuse for that no matter what you say. It's not even in his duty to release tax returns. You're pretty much wrong about his business deals not being open when he's forced to show any business dealings on financial disclosure statements and tax returns don't even come close to giving you the same amount of information like when you accused him of having connections to Russia for not releasing his tax returns even though none of his assets or liabilities listed any LOL ...

FYI, I didn't imply Trump should copy Ross Perot's results in the election, just his support before the threatening plot and Ross was doing fine without releasing his tax returns ... 

It's funny to see you paint Trump's tax returns as if it's the pandora's box even though the IRS is forced to look what's inside of it to check for anything illegal and they found nothing nefarious in it ... 

Wikileaks not having any info on Trump just means that he has far less nefarious things to hide compared to the government ... 

I want to make sure I understand your position here.  You do not care about transparency for someone going for the ofiice of POTUS.  You are happy with whatever they tell you and do not care if what they say is true or not.  Trump has made claims and positioned his candancy on those claims.  He has said he contributed alot to charities, he has stated his net worth and he has championed in his own econmic plan to give even more tax breaks to the rich.  Just by that alone he should easily come clean just like 40 years of people who were serious about becoming president and release his returns.  What we have found out through the years is that the people who usually make a big issue to release those returns has the most to hide.

What I see from you is a lot of excuses but no real reason why he should not release his return just like everyone who was serious about going for POTUS has done.  Using Ross Perot in your arguments was another deflection since we know how that went down.  I already have an opinion what is there in Trump returns and no I do not believe there is any smoking gun that will change anyone who has decided to vote for him.  Instead, I find it interesting that anyone would just let him off the hook and give excuses for him to not release his returns when he said himself he would.

No, Wikileaks having nothing on Trumps mean that they have either not put any real effort into getting anything, they have no interest or there isn't anything.  There could be many reason why they do or do not have anything but using them as the only sol source if there is any nefarious things Trump has done is basically ignoring the body of stuff you can easily search for on the net.  No person who is serious about doing any real research on any of these people only look at one source of info.