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Soundwave on 22 August 2016
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Dunban67 said:
Soundwave said:

Every console generation has new gameplay experiences. This idea that "new gameplay experiences" only started with the Wii is a fucking joke, especially when Sony basically did similar ideas a few years earlier with Eye Toy. And you do know previous Nintendo consoles had controller innovations without selling completely outdated hardware, right? 1983-2005 did actually happen last time I checked. 

Or is a console with semi-competent hardware now a trademark of Sony and MS? 

I'm not asking for Nintendo to compete with Neo and Scorpio, I'm just asking for TV performance better than the average GPU from *five* years ago. I'd like something that is a reasonable upgrade on the Wii U if I'm going to pay another $250-$300 after 4 years. That is not exactly a high bar. It's not asking for a steak dinner with wine, it's asking for a hamburger that's at least properly cooked. 

I think you have done a very good job describing the " give and take" that Nintendo faces and how its decisions effect its potential customers going forward.  The reality is the NX will EITHER appeal more to the inexperienced gamer or more to the experienced gamer but it will not cannot appeal to them both equally by default  -   It's pretty simple " for every action there is a reaction" 

Even that I'd be willing to (and I think many "experienced" Nintendo gamers) meet Nintendo half way. Give us a fucking Supplemental Compute Dock at least. Give us something that provides a real and tangiable upgrade from the Wii U that we paid $300-$350 for. 

We'll pay extra for it. You don't even have to mandate support for it. 

I just do not want to be locked in for another 4-6 years on another Wii U level of hardware if this is what I'm supposed to play on my TV with. That's not a ridiculous request for 2017. 

If Nintendo is genuine about offering something for "everyone" then everyone's wants/needs should be given consideration, not the Wii/Wii U philosophy which is basically every design element of the system is for casuals and experienced gamers should not complain because "Zelda". I had "Zelda" on my SNES and N64 and GameCube too, so don't give me that shit, Zelda doesn't mean you can cut 100 different corners. 

I'm fine with appealling to casuals, but there needs to be a more thoughtful and *fair* approach to how their hardware is designed. It should not be one part of audience has hardware designed for all their needs, while experienced gamers are thrown a dual analog and nothing else and told to suck it up.