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Soundwave on 22 August 2016
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

Like I said above I don't need even a bleeding edge system, but wanting something that's even remotely modern is wrong now? Why is it that core gamers needs must be pretty much completely ignored for them to make something acceptable to beginners/casuals?

I would be OK with a 1 TFLOP NX ... that is even less performance than 4 year old XBox One which most people consider to be under-specced to begin with. No one's asking for a Nintendo PS4 Neo here. 

This is not asking for a lot. If you want to put some magic wonder-dildo controller in the box, hey have at it Nintendo, I'm not even saying they can't do that. 

Super Mario Bros. would not have been as good of a game had it ran on the Atari 2600. Super Mario World and Earthbound and Zelda: LttP and Final Fantasy VI would not be as good of games had they ran on the NES instead of Super NES. Mario 64 and GoldenEye and Zelda: OoT wouldn't run on a SNES period. Super Smash Bros. Melee or Metroid Prime wouldn't have been nearly as good of a game on the N64 versus GameCube. 

Being a full hardware generation behind has consequences for the types of games and experiences that can be had. 

You should have continued with the generations. The Wii offered new types of games and experiences despite its lack of a full generational jump for its hardware. That raises the question how important is processing power in this day and age. Console generations prior to the Wii could offer new types of games and experiences in large part due to the increased processing power, but since then it has been first and foremost about prettier coats for gameplay that we have already seen before.

See my Apple example above. They lean heavily towards user friendliness and "mom approval" but they still offer modern, functional hardware. The iPhone may not match spec for spec every thing, but it's not like it's 5 years behind either. That's a balanced hardware design, what Nintendo offers is not. 

Nintendo is the one asking people to put up with badly out of date hardware, no other company really operates that way and is successful doing so. 

I also question the Wii's lasting legacy, Zelda BoTW was announced with no motion controls and basically no one complained. No one is ripping down Nintendo's doors for Wii Sports 3 or Wii Fit 3. 

In my opinion, the Wii was really a rip off. Nintendo basically took a GameCube which was a $99 system by that point and charged $250 for a repackaged version of it with a controller, that probably cost $10 a pop to make and was fortunate to hit pay dirt with the motion gaming craze, which had the perfect small window to thrive in before smartphones began offering thousands of games to casuals for 0 dollars in a more convienant form factor. Nintendo fans were asked to put up with SD graphics for six years for really no good reason. 

Even if they wanted to make the Wiimote the center piece of the system, there was no reason for the hardware to be that shitty, $250 was only $50 less than the XBox 360 vanilla system released a full year prior.