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Ryng_Tolu said:

Ok, since "no one" expected PS4 to surpass Wii U or PS4 to sells over 5 million ecc.

This thread was made before the PS4 launch. Note how many 12-15 million prediction for PS4.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=173314&page=1

Completely irrelevant to my point.  I was talking in the period after the ps4 launch.  This in no way discredits that.