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Einsam_Delphin said:
Nuvendil said:
At least this season showed growth in Ash. This is the first time - discounting Sinnoh, which was an anomaly - that Ash has made real progress. It will be interesting to see if they maintain that momentum and he wins the next league, as would make sense, or they hit the reset button and we spend 3 seasons with him winning silver for no apparent reason.

Also, such bs that a mega Charizard beat him. It's such transparent fan pandering as if they wanted him to lose they could have had it be a mega Venusaur that Ash has to fight with Greninja. Instead they expect us to turn off our brain and go "wooh! Charizard soo cewl!"

 

Wait why are you discounting Sinnoh? How was that an anomaly? 

 

Acevil said:

Did I say think I meant hope. 

 

Ah well I wouldn't get your hopes up especially after today.

 

KLAMarine said:

Does he at least win the girl? That's more important.

 

After today? No chance in hell! They clearly don't give a shit about changing up the status quo or giving the fans what they want.

 

Roketan said:
Wait, did people seriously believed that Ash would win?

LOL, i mean none of the characters didn't had any serious development during the past 10 years. The anime is only for keeping the franchise and the games around.

Ash has lost like 6 or 7 leagues and instead of taking some time alone and think ''what the hell am i doing with my life'' he just smiles like nothing happened. It would be okay if it was only for one time but the lesson here should be ''ash lost a number of times but at long last, after many hardships, he became a champion''. But noooooo, stupid writers don't care about that.

 

Uh yeah, where have you been?

Compare the Ash from the Kanto series to the current Kalos Ash. There's clearly been development as he's actually mature strong and strategic now, exactly how he should be with all the experience he has now.

Look at your image in the OP:  16, 8, 8, 4, 8.  Sinnoh is the only time he placed above 8 and is bookended by two 8s.  That's why I call it anomalous, cause it represents an unusual step forward that didn't go anywhere since he went right back in the next season.  

Also just occurred to me Ash will probably win Alola just like he did the Orange league, seeing as how Alola is similarly unusual.  And then they will either have that be a spring board for winning a "big league" OR do what they did with the Orange League and make dead certain to belittle the accomplishment and have him probably finish 2nd again.