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Lawlight on 14 August 2016
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Nuvendil said:
Lawlight said:

He didn't destroy the Deathh Star alone. The Death Star weakness was just a plot hole. And we still see Luke getting force training, unlike Rey. While he didn't suffer any real defeat, he also didn't do amazing feats, unlike Rey.

And even in the 2nd film, he couldn't defeat Vader. And it's only in the 2nd movie that we see luke do a force grab - with great difficulty.

Even if we assume you're right, does that excuse the poor writing? We're in the 2010s - Star Wars, the first one, was written in the 1970s.

Taking down the Death Star after multiple veterans did is pretty impressive for a "crop duster", no matter how you try to spin it.  That medal he got wasn't a participation award :P

Didn't say Rey was perfectly written, just that you are being too extreme in your stance.  I am personally waiting to see what happens in VIII with regards to most of what you are saying.  

And on that last point...what does that have to do with anything?  Yeah, Star Wars was written in the 70s.  And Citizen Kane was written in the 30s and 40s.  And Hamlet was written centuries ago.  Time of writing is not an excuse for the flaws of any of the Star Wars films :P 

It's impressive but fact remains that he wouldn't have been able to do that without the veterans.

So, we'd have to wait for the movie to see if Rey is really a poorly written character?

Yeah, Citizen Kane and Hamlet are not sci-fi stories with major plot complexities. They're character-driven. You're the one using SW to excuse the major flaws of TFA.