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Nuvendil on 13 August 2016
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Lawlight said:
Nuvendil said:

No, it's even worse with Luke.  He went from "dusting crops" to destroying the Death Star in no time.  And he was blocking blaster bolts blindfolded in under an hour, which stretches credibility even with a teacher (who we don't see teach a thing).  And that's the only training we really ever see him get and with that brief time he manages to destroy the Death Star and use the force to grab objects.  

And Luke's FIRST ENCOUNTER happened in the SECOND FILM.  VII s the first film of the new trilogy.  Which was my whole point: Luke suffered no real defeats in his first film either, no matter how likely it would be.  And Rey was utterly helpless in her first encounter with Kylo Ren.  

Also, Rey was a scavanger living next to a massive ship graveyard.  She's probably seen those old style controls countless times in ships she had scrounged through for parts.  Which also explains how she understands systems in these ships so well: she would have to in order to properly collect the best parts.  Ad the Falcon isn't a custom super-bleedin edge ship, as was pointed out in every movie it has been in.  So her knowledge of ship systems would largely transfer over.  Which is better justification than we have for Luke being "the best pilot in the outer rim."  I mean, we never even SEE Luke work with or touch a starship before he sets foot on the Falcon.  

He didn't destroy the Deathh Star alone. The Death Star weakness was just a plot hole. And we still see Luke getting force training, unlike Rey. While he didn't suffer any real defeat, he also didn't do amazing feats, unlike Rey.

And even in the 2nd film, he couldn't defeat Vader. And it's only in the 2nd movie that we see luke do a force grab - with great difficulty.

Even if we assume you're right, does that excuse the poor writing? We're in the 2010s - Star Wars, the first one, was written in the 1970s.

Taking down the Death Star after multiple veterans did is pretty impressive for a "crop duster", no matter how you try to spin it.  That medal he got wasn't a participation award :P

Didn't say Rey was perfectly written, just that you are being too extreme in your stance.  I am personally waiting to see what happens in VIII with regards to most of what you are saying.  

And on that last point...what does that have to do with anything?  Yeah, Star Wars was written in the 70s.  And Citizen Kane was written in the 30s and 40s.  And Hamlet was written centuries ago.  Time of writing is not an excuse for the flaws of any of the Star Wars films :P