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scrapking said:
curl-6 said:

No offense, but I find it extremely hard to believe that you don't own or consume anything at all in which production involves the harming of animals. Even a vegan diet involves crops and pest control. The computer or phone you are using now probably has some plastic or adhesive derived from an animal.

Personally, I'm okay with animals being killed to support my way of life. It may be politically incorrect to say so, but I don't place an enormous amount of value on the life of a cow or a chicken.

Re-read my quote.  Nowhere do I say that I don't own or consume anything at all in which the production involved the harming of animals.  I have many things I've owned since before I was particularly concerned with this topic, and have possibly unknowingly purchased some since.  I'm not trying to say I'm perfect, as I ain't perfect.  I'm so imperfect, I just typed "ain't"!  ;)  I do strive to be constantly better.  And by better, I mean working to bringing my actions more in alignment with my beliefs.  So it's not about me making myself better than someone else, it's about making myself better according to my own standards.  I respect the fact that others have other standards.  As such I've almost entirely kept ethics out of this discussion, as it's not for me to tell people what to believe.  I have kept my comments almost entirely to correcting (what I believe to be) misinformation.  If people are to make informed decisions, they need the correct info.

Fair enough. Kudos to you for not pushing an ethical debate on people, that's a position I can respect.