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naruball said:
DonFerrari said:

Please explain to me how a movie making the company lose money isn't a flop or bomb....

Guess Angry Joe haven't watch it. (A single example. Great. That sure disproves my point)

The Three Musketeers (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1509767/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_10

Budget:

$75,000,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$8,674,452

Gross:

$20,315,324 (USA) (16 December 2011)

= bomb/flop

John Carter

Budget:

$263,700,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$30,180,188 (USA) (9 March 2012)

Gross:

$73,058,679 (USA) (22 June 2012)

= bomb/flop
Look up any lists with movies that flopped. It's not movies that simply didn't break even, but movies that did so badly that there were no plans for a sequel and cost the studio a ton of money. This is not case here.

But if it makes you feel better calling it a flop/bomb, by all means, do so. Not gonna stop you.

Bwahaha! So you criticize him for looking at one source, yet you look at one market? Also, I thought this was about Sony movies?

 

Musketeers made $132M WW.  So, the studio saw about $73M of that.  If it had a small marketing budget, it most likely made them profit on home video.

 

John Carter made $284M WW, which means the studio saw only $156M.  So, yes, it is a flop.  But guess what, so is Ghostbusters.  It'll never break even, even with home video.  

 

I suggest you stop your blind defense of this movie and look at the facts.  You may have liked it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a financial disaster.  In fact, I would bet after all this is blown over, you'll watch it again and see it's not that great.  Like Star Wars fans did with the prequels.