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LurkerJ said:
Teeqoz said:

The 9 month wait is what is the biggest problem in this entire refugee crisis. It completely ruins integration. Anyone that don't have a job for 9 months are unlikely to get back into the workforce without some serious help, regardless of their nationality. And it's not like these people have anything against working - they aren't allowed to! And getting a job is crucial for integration, because your workplace is your most important social arena, and it will drastically increase the speed of which a refugee will he able to learn the language and culture.

 

Like I said, anyone will struggle in getting badk into the workforce after being unemployed for a longer period if time. The stats prove this. Which makes it all the more ridiculous how so many governments ignore this issue. Treatment times for asylum applications need to be drastically reduced. It will cost money, but it will pay off exponentially in long term effects from higher employment amongst refugees.

Ugh, how do you want them to get work done if they are too "fresh"? They have to learn the language first, every employer everywhere demands the applicants to speak the language that's dominant in the work environment. 

You won't have such issues if god forbids, the rich Arabic countries that invest heavily in the destruction of Syria, take these refugees instead. Foreigners make up more than 30% of Saudi Arabia population, 10 millions, all them are there to work in the private sector because the private sector doesn't prefer unfit and lazy local workers. Saudi Arabia doesn't even allow the private sector to bring in Syrian professionals anymore, and yet, Europe is demanded to do more towards people who need a lot of time before being a productive part of the society. Certainly a lot more time than they would've needed in Saudi and Qatar.

That's not true. Where I work, we have multiple Poles that don't speak Norwegian, and the one I work with the most, a Bulgarian woman, is perfectly capable of making herself understood, but with a broken accent. She's still a better worker than probably any one else that work here.

 

You don't learn a language by sitting on a school bench. You learn it by using it in day to day situations. Except they never are in those say to day situations because they aren't allowed to work before they get their apllication approved (regardless of how well they speak the language), and they also don't have circle of non-refugee friends because like I said, the workplace is the average person's most important social arena.

 

We've also had a Belgian exchange student who lived with us for a year (we were the host family), do you think he learnt Norwegian by taking those two classes each week? No, it's because he was placed in a classroom with no choice but to learn. Bam, two weeks and he knows enough Norwegian to get by, and the learning only goes exponentially further upwards after that.

 

If we are able to get these refugees into the work force so that they can contribute to the value creation in the west, they'll be an immense resource, especially because the part of our population that are elderly is exploding (look at Japan. That's where every western country will be in a decade.)