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Faelco on 29 July 2016
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Louie said:
bananaking21 said:

those systems are from a different time in the market. move on. thats the problem Nintendo is having, they cant move on and dont understand the market. they are out of touch.

i am not making stuff up, the casual crowd consists of dozens of millions, as well as the core gaming market. citing that smash bros sold well across two systems does not indicate that "nintendo has the core". because it obviously doesnt. look at software sales for WiiU and compare them to the PS4, and tell me if nintendo has the core. they dont. what nintendo has is its fanbase. one that is shrinking with time. 

you pointing out pokemon go just proves my point. 75 million people on iOS and andriod downloaded pokemon go. thats what nintendo and its handhelds are competing with. and no, if they are interested in the software, they arent interested in the hardware. the fact that those 75 million eclipse 3DS total hardware sales by roughly 50% shows that. 

you are deluding yourself if you think hardware was never a major player in gaming, and that its all about the software. price, ease of use, accessibility, hardware capabilities all play a part.

I don't feel like arguing anymore, just giving a general statement about casuals, Nintendo being out of touch, predicting future sales based on current sales: 

Please people, before making up totally random stuff, go out and read stuff that teach you about the subject: Stuff like "The Innovator's Dilemma", "The Innovator's Solution", "Crossing the Chasm", "Blue Ocean Strategy", "From Zero to One", "Lead and Disrupt"... get acquainted with market tiers, types of consumers, the business model canvas, regression analysis (to judge whether a claim has any statistic basis), and so on. 

It is absolutely pointless to argue with each other when you have no factual basis to base your predictions on. 

Right, because you can prove your own predictions with 1+1=2. Don't worry, I've been trained at least partially to marketing, business model, innovation and the really usual blue ocean strategy, so I can understand if you explain. From what we know about it, NX does not really follow a blue ocean strategy. An hybrid product between 2 markets does not necessarily mean a blue ocean, especially when both markets are crowded (handheld/mobile on one side, home consoles on the other). Saying "OK, we can't win on 2 markets so we'll try to make a mix of both to differentiate ourselves" isn't a blue ocean strategy, and is just a small innovation to be different. They will still compete against mobiles, PS4, Xbox and PC (and the point of the blue ocean strategy is to have ideally no competition...). 

 

You can show us a in-depth analysis of the market and the future of the NX with all your knowledge if you want, I would be really happy to read it if you can prove anything with it. It would make a perfect post to read again in a few months/years. We could even send it to Nintendo, because they kinda missed something somewhere when they made the Wii U, so it could be useful for everyone ^^. Otherwise, if you can only talk about this knowledge and tell people to learn it, then you're just like any other video game forumer and you can continue to make predictions without "factual basis" with us ;) We're on a video game forum and a prediction thread by the way, that's the whole point. After all, you can always find clueless forumers like us who turn out to be right with their predictions, when the renowned specialists screw up most of the time...