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bananaking21 on 28 July 2016
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Louie said:
bananaking21 said:

again look at the WiiU hardware, if they were system sellers they would have moved a lot more WiiU units.

its very clear that a lot of the "casual crowd" dont care for nintendo games, they moved on to tablets and smartphones, and the core gamers dont care anymore either, as PC/PS/Xbox give them a much better gaming experience then the WiiU. 

Nintendo are doing one of the same mistakes they did with the WiiU, trying to appease to everyone, which will only result in them not appeasing to anyone. 

a handheld with a tegra graphics card, a dock to connect to the TV, detatchable controlers will result in harder mobility, lower battery life, and a more expensive machine than usual for handhelds, while also cutting down on the console experience by having less power than a 2017 console should have, a weird controller setup and a console that isnt a dedicated home console, which will have its drawbacks. 

 

That's just something you are making up. Smash Bros (core game) sold better than ever before on Wii U and 3DS, Zelda drew huge lines at e3 (core game) and the games you mentioned definitely did move 3DS consoles (unless the games on PSP, PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox One, NES and SNES also failed to move consoles of course). So those games sold the GBA, the DS, the Wii and the 3DS but hey - there is that one system that didn't sell so that's proof they are not system sellers anymore. And yeah, let's ignore those 75m+ Pokémon Go players because "the casuals don't care anymore". Here's a fun thought: If they care for the software they can also care for the hardware. Gaming is always about the software, it was never about making the strongest system. 

I'm personally sceptic of NX being a success from what I've heard so far and I think the Wii U is a very bad product but your posts just don't look all that objective to me. 

those systems are from a different time in the market. move on. thats the problem Nintendo is having, they cant move on and dont understand the market. they are out of touch.

i am not making stuff up, the casual crowd consists of dozens of millions, as well as the core gaming market. citing that smash bros sold well across two systems does not indicate that "nintendo has the core". because it obviously doesnt. look at software sales for WiiU and compare them to the PS4, and tell me if nintendo has the core. they dont. what nintendo has is its fanbase. one that is shrinking with time. 

you pointing out pokemon go just proves my point. 75 million people on iOS and andriod downloaded pokemon go. thats what nintendo and its handhelds are competing with. and no, if they are interested in the software, they arent interested in the hardware. the fact that those 75 million eclipse 3DS total hardware sales by roughly 50% shows that. 

you are deluding yourself if you think hardware was never a major player in gaming, and that its all about the software. price, ease of use, accessibility, hardware capabilities all play a part.