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Mike_L on 26 July 2016
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RolStoppable said:
Mike_L said:

1: As I said, every Western multiplat released during the Wii U's early life came to the Wii U besides 3 EA games, sports games and GTA V. I don't want to defend EA as it's my least favorite major publisher and yes, they're a little evil XD

No, really. Just because I (we) don't like EA games, it doesn't mean that they're evil, biased, bad guys, etc. They're just companies that go where the money is.

 

2: 3rd parties flinging shit is not exclusive to Nintendo. Just look at how EA publicly expressed their dissatisfaction with the PS3 back in 2006 and 2007 and publicly threatened to weaken their support if things (price, market share and development tools) didn't improve. However, those things did improve and while it cost Sony an astronomical pile of money (something Nintendo CHOSE to avoid) it also helped to retain a healthy market share, brand awareness and relationship with 3rd parties.

You don't want Nintendo to suck it up to 3rd parties and that's fine. But don't act surprised when their support is better elsewhere. In my mind that has nothing to do with them being biased. The word "biased" is defined as "Having or showing prejudice" and 3rd party support on Nintendo consoles is not a result of prejudice. It is rather a result of rational thinking and basic (financial) logics.

The monkey that went over to the bucket full of fruits instead of the empty one wasn't prejudiced. It was just acting as a rational thinking creature and chose the option where it got rewarded.

 Yes, I compared EA with a monkey.

1. You can't deny a prejudice on behalf of third parties when you have to concede that various games weren't even released. Likewise, you can't deny that there is prejudice when many third party ports didn't receive enough care on the basis of the assumption that the games won't sell much. Of course the games won't sell much when they are released in such a state and at such prices, but instead of third parties considering that their effort might be the problem, they publicly blame the Nintendo audience.

2. Third parties do not blame the audiences on PS and Xbox. For example, when EA justified pulling their support from the Wii U, they stated that they made great efforts and those didn't sell well. That statement was blatant bullshit.

I won't act surprised when third parties' support is better elsewhere. That's the norm and it's not going to change because of the existing prejudice. When a new Nintendo systems come out, third parties instantly assume that everything will be exactly the same as in the past, make low effort games as a consequence, and then act surprised that the audience is buying better games than theirs. It's always the same cycle and the only way it can be broken is if any given third party abandons its prejudice and bias.

1: Again, I don't believe 3rd parties are prejudiced or biased against Nintendo. They go where the money is. You act as if EA = all 3rd party developers. GTA V had been in development for far too long to receive a Wii U port and other than that only EA games didn't come to the console. Enough with the conspiracy theory about bias and intended bad ports. The ports I've played on Wii U have been fine.

2: Why should 3rd parties blame the PS and Xbox audiences when most of their games sell well with the PS and Xbox audiences? I agree, that they shouldn't publicly blame the Wii U owners (that's EA for ya) but other than that you can't deny they got a point. Their "mature" games (which represents most of their library) don't sell well on Nintendo consoles. Just look at Wii's top 15 best selling 3rd party games.

1. Just Dance
2. Zumba Fitness
3. LEGO games
4. Guitar Hero
5. The Experience
6. Carnival Games
7. EA Sports Active
8. Epic Mickey
9. Cooking Mama
10. Skylanders
11. Sonic and the Secret Rings
12. Deca Sports
13. Game Party
14. uDraw
15. My Fitness Coach

3: Again, I don't believe they're biased but due to history and past experiences they may expect their "non-mature" games to sell better than their "mature" games, I'll give you that. Whether that's fair I don't know but if making "mature" games is what they're best at, can we expect them to suddenly start developing a bunch of dancing and fitness games? I don't think so especially not now that most of Wii's audience is no longer interested in consoles.

 

Are you at times prejudiced against 3rd parties or is that a result of past experiences?