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barneystinson69 said:

Switzerland has it right, in which people are allowed to pirate. You want to know why? Because it has been proven that pirating doesn't actually harm musicians or game developers or movie producers at all. If people are pirating a movie or game, what are the chances they'll buy it if that is taken away? And what if a game is long gone and pirating it is the only way to play it again? I only pirate if there is no alternative option, like if a certain TV I want to watch isn't available on Netflix.

But this is leftist bullshit.

It's well known that when illegal download came and when Napster and Kazaa came, people started to download most of their music instead of buying CDs. And the album sales collapsed. Later with DC++ and Piratebay people did the same with movies, later came illgal movie streaming sites, and now DVD and Blu-ray sales have collapsed completely.

Only in recent years has the entrance of convenient streaming services started to compensate for the lost album sales, and the music industry revenue to recover, but only to some extent.

But in the movie industry, they rely sooooo much on movie ticket sales now. They don't get nearly as much from the revenue streams outside of movie tickets like they did ten years ago.

In heavy metal it's well known that artists can only make money through touring nowadays. But not all artists tour, so piracy is very evil against those guys.

And one only has to go to oneself and realize how piracy affects your buying habits. Since Napster and DC++ and torrents came I haven't bought a single album and not a single movie.

Steam is a good service so with my PC hobby I buy games, also because I want to support game developers.

But with music and movies I don't care as much, since even our politicians in Sweden said it is okay to pirate, so I pirate. I pirate music and film. I don't feel any compassion towards musicians and movie makers while gaming is a different story.

But obviously I would buy a lot of this stuff if I couldn't pirate it, just like I did before these piracy sites came up. Now I'm just doing something else with that money like buying alcohol, but the movie and music guys definitely aren't getting my money.