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Miyamotoo said:
oniyide said:

nothing's unrealistic it comes Nintendo. Hell you could have said the same thing years ago. It would have been unrealistic to expect the Wii u to bomb as hard as it did coming off the back on there most sucessful console (and i wouldve agreed with you), but here we are. THere is no logic at play here cause we dont have any concrete info. I'll believe it when i see it.

But thats point with Wii U, they were too relaxed with Wii success, and they thought Wii U will sell despite huge number of mistakes and without real effort just if put Wii name on it, and they admit thes, Wii U was slap of reality for them.

You can belive what you want, but like I wrote, its very unrealistic to expect that after Wii U failed (their biggest faile in history),  Nintendo, multi bilion company that in their long histor had only two years with loss and neer had any debt, will act like nothing happened and that will not work much harder in order that next console be much more appeling product.

They'll work harder, but working harder doesn't gauruntee better sales.

Sega worked much harder with the Dreamcast, Nintendo worked hard with the GameCube after N64 too ... both still failed and Dreamcast didn't in the end sell any better than the Saturn, and Gamecube declined considerably from N64. 

This isn't solely a merit based/effort based industry. Nintendo fixing some mistakes doesn't wow people, they have to bring something to the table considerably different (and different with actual value/appeal to the consumer) or improved from Sony/MS are already doing. 

Quite frankly NX is coming into a much more competetive market than the Wii U was, Wii U only had to deal with aging PS3/360, NX is coming right into the mid-cycle of the PS4/XB1 when both console's are at their peak strength, and Scorpio/Neo are also launching, and NX does not have the benefit of a Christmas launch either.