Coup in Turkey

[Slimebeast]

konnichiwa said:

Slimebeast said:

Wow. I thought they were leaning towards the more liberal side. But perhaps it's the effect of being an immigrant, you tend to become more nationalist and positive to your old country.

Nah that's mostly because they grow up in Europe with the Turkish State telivision that is in the hands of Erdogan, enough media that isn't got shutdown. So people with Turkish roots probably see a strong Turkey but don't see the problems, overall if their are problems Erdogan will blame it on the Kurds/Gülen etc. 

For example in the Netherlands you have a new political party that basically exists out of 'New Dutch citizens' or immigrants children including many with Turkish roots who don't mind to hate or criticize Wilders but will not criticize Erdogan.

The immigrant effect is very common all over the West though, and part of it is what you describe, a romanticized picture of the homeland. Often facilitated by state propaganda back home.

I'm sad to hear about the double standards, Geert Wilders versus Erdogan. It's the same here in Sweden, and elsewhere. Every foreign ethnic group is a proud xx national and also receive state funds to preserve their culture, but Swedes are supposed to feel like racists if they even try to bring up the topic of Swedish culture, heritage and identity and our version of Geert Wilders is compared with Hitler. No proportions.