Baryonyx said:
Ganoncrotch said:
Seems there is some political issues slowing down some of the movement here, I mean on top of other things you have the basic fact that to come to Ireland there is a lot more transport required for these people, not only is it moving from one country to the other but Ireland is an Island away from the main land Europe, based on http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-asked-to-take-only-20-asylum-seekers-under-eu-plan-1.2501402 story also a lot fo the refugees are being told by their smugglers not to apply for relocation into deeper EU as they could get turned back home, not sure what smugglers have to gain, but would think it's a basic idea that if they stay close to the border there is a chance that the same smugglers would get another oppertunity to take money from them to cross the border again if they could get it.
As for what Zero said though here in Ireland we have a thing called a National Housing list which prioritizes families and families with children above those who are single or just couples, what is offered for those is a thing called rent allowence whereby the government pays a portion of your rent while they actively look for accomodation for those in need of it, I'm guessing that if Zero is on a list waiting for a house he would be in reciept of this which would pay a large portion of rent (over 60% normally).
I've never personally had to use that portion of the Department of Social protection here in Ireland but from my understand and information from friends of mine who have, they said that while it's somewhat slow to have your application sorted (often in the 2 month region) they do back pay anything which you would have been entitled to back to the day you applied, so if you are eligible you will get your cash back from it. The DSP here is fairly good at looking after citizens tbh, both Irish ones and those from other EU member states at the very least.
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Oh yeah, you are right about that part, and perhaps it is for the best that the refugee crisis is limited to a specific area of Europe.
But thank you for taking time to write all that.
Yeah, I am quite familiar with these systems, these systems are being used here for refugee's as the beginning of the integration systems but the shortage will be a problem because i doubt people wanna live in camps for much longer and since they don't understand the actual internal problems, they will soon start rioting cause they feel like they are treated as Animals, which in return will make the refugee crisis even more complicated as well as they probably piss off a lot of more Europe's Citizens in the progress until people start losing sympathy which is the reason why these refugee's was accepted to begin with.. These things can esculate into a Civil war at the worst if we don't find alternative solutions without breaking Human-right's. Tolerance have it's limit's with everyone.
The refugee's are already complaining about the food they have been served and i don't understand what is wrong with the food, it's typical food that Middle-class people eat.... They even grow intolerant towards the food, not all of them.. But thanks to media it is truly pissing people off since the reaction is: What? You expect us to serve you 3-5 star meals?
They even expect us to clean up after them when they shit all over the walls or throw toilet-paper with poo on it at the walls.. FInding dead frogs everywhere and so on....
Europe can't sustain the Refugee crisis both economically and internally.. If we get a new world financal crisis, it will be ten times as bad as the last one.
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wow that sounds like it's really a situation which could blow up, and yeah I understand what you mean, I'm pretty "middle class" myself so I would be very annoyed if someone was given meals I'd be happy with and they complained about them being given for free, like the options those people have is War/Death or Aid which is offered, maybe if people just clearly laid it out for some of them and said those 2 options they would hush up and be happy with the safety which the EU is offering them? I know it isn't ideal.... but it's also not wartorn lands, or I think some might not have been coming from actual danger but just wanting to get into richer lands for benefits, but that is a whole other issue.
