globalisateur said:
How do you define deliberate then? - The german realizes Evra is going to head shot the ball towards Neuer's goal (Which he did) - He starts to dash towards the ball while suddenly raising his right hand above his head (while would you raise your hand above your head while starting to run?) - Still watching closely where the ball is going to fall he jumps towards the spot close to Evra's head (because he already knows Evra is perfeclty located and he can't do nothing about that). - He makes a fist with his right hand only (no fist for his left hand) and look away at the last moment to make as if he didn't know his hand was going to punch the ball - He perfectly punches the ball just after Evra's successfully hit the ball. It was a deliberate punch from the german like any goalkeeper would have done. Just look at the videos from different angles. It's DELIBERATE which is why he got a yellow card. From the front we can see he aims for the ball with his first (no fist for left hand) and look away at the last moment: https://gfycat.com/HandsomeFrailIaerismetalmark From the back, look closely when he sees is late then starts to run while raising his right hand: |
Good post. I certainly agree it is hard to define what is intentional and what is not.
But look, my post was to correct people who claimed that it was undoubtedly a major penalty because the FIFA rules say that it doesn't matter if there is intention or not. But that information was false, since the rules actually clearly say the opposite: it does indeed very much matter if the hand action is intentional or not.
When I study this case it's funny because from some angles it looks so accidental and from some angles intentional.
And when there is doubt, and in this case the referee should have felt very strong doubt, one shouldn't blow for a penalty in such a decisive moment. This is my key argument. Not that I pretend to be able to decide how much intention Schweinsteiger had.
There is sort of a golden rule in all sports, a saying that universally goes something like this:
"let the players decide the outcome".
That saying gets thrown around all the time in football. Every ref knows this rule in his spinal core. But it's funny in this thread, it's as if nobody has even heard about this concept! Instead many people are seriously arguing that "if there is a foul, the referee must always blow the whistle", which is absolutely ridiculous. It absolutely goes against the reality of modern football. Only somebody ignorant to sports could say such a thing. So I almost feel like an alien here and it's quite honestly a bit bizarre.
But very good post by you man, you provided a logical and sound analysis about the situation in the game!
