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Slimebeast on 08 July 2016
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JEMC said:
shikamaru317 said:

Pascal offers DX12 improvements over Maxwell though I think. So even though Nvidia is claiming 980 performance for 1060, it may actually top 980 in DX12 games. We'll just have to wait for the reviews.

If RX 480 does win in DX12 games though, I think it will be the smarter buy in the long run, since more and more games are using DX12 nowadays (Tomb Raider, Hitman, Ashes of Singularity, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Battlefield 1, Ark: Survival Evolved, Star Citizen, Watch Dogs 2, pretty much all of the Xbox Play Anywhere games, etc.).

iirc, Pascal doesn't perform better in DX 12 than Maxwell. Pascal cards are more powerful and that also makes them more powerful in DX12, but the performance drop when switching from DX11 to DX12 for both families is pretty much the same.

And AMD cards don't gain when running DX12 games, they simply loss less performance than Nvidia cards. The same game run in DX 11 and DX 12 will run faster on DX 11, whether you're using an AMD or Nvidia card.

And it's worth keeping in mind that DX12 won't take over the PC gaming echosystem overnight, DX 11 will still be a thing for many, many years. Just look at DX9, which is still used nowadays. 

I'm not saying that you should choose a GPU looking only at today's games/performance, but you should be realistic. If you're thinking about replacing your card in 2-3 years, thinking about DX12 is pretty much useless.

Is that because they are games developed and designed for Dx11?

With upcoming games designed primarily for DX12 it will be the opposite instead, there will be some performance advantages, right? Compute something or what was it? Run CPU tasks on the GPU (although that wouldn't help CPU bound games)? Or have I just drunk some kool-aid. Please elaborate lol.