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Machiavellian on 08 July 2016
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DonFerrari said:
Machiavellian said:

Ok, I will give you that one since I am using the term Peer to Peer a little to losely for the subject.  No there isn't actual true P2P MP gaming but instead the Peer is the one client machine which is the host and all other peers connect to that machine as clients.  I am using the term P2P because this is the definition developers have used for their MP component.  

My statement still remain the same.  Since there isn't any dedicated server in the process, there is nothing Sony is providing for MP gaming that requires them to add MP to PS+.  All the work is done between the consoles that connect to one another.  

So he shows you why sony servers is necessary even for P2P and you just say you used the term loosely and them go back to say the same thing that was wrong before, for real?

LOL, did you even click on the link he provided.  You just accepted someone else opinion without even verifying it yourself.  Also if you click the link you would seen even the developer called their MP, Peer to Peer.  There is absolutly nothing in that link that shows that there is any Sony servers that are involved with Uncharted 4 MP.  Even if Sony provided dedicated servers for UC4 it would not have any meaning to PSN as a service.  It would be for one game, out of thousands.  Another point is that PSN does not do anything for 3rd party games from the likes of Activision, EA etc.  First party games may use dedicated servers and Sony has done this before but it has nothing to do with PS+ or the service.

What you are confusing is PS+/ PSN service with what individual games may or may have for MP.  The question still stands, exactly what does PSN do for MP online games where it needs to be put behind a paid service.  What cost is Sony absorbing for MP online play that it justified being behind a paywall.  If you have no answer for this question then the move to put Online Play behind a pay wall was strictly a money grabbing move.  Not sure why people cannot accept this fact, its as if you all forget that Sony is a business and they will do things for money whether or not it benifit the customer.