I don't get MS's plan, announcing this early, Scrap NEO? PS5 in 2018?

[Mr Puggsly]

DonFerrari said:

Mr Puggsly said:

The Cell had great capabilities that obviously had little benefit in games. They should have opted for a cheaper and more common CPU like 360 and perhaps invest more in GPU. I dont think the Bluray drive impacted price as much as the processor. Bluray wasnt essential for 7th gen gaming though.

As release comes close the X1 S will probably offer pre orders for the $299 model.

Even if they are selling it at a break even price, its still competitively priced. Even cheaper than Wii U right now. But 360 was the the cheaper console for much of last gen as well.

Yep... at the release bluray players costed more than a PS3 to customer, so I think the drive itself contributed a lot to the price. There were breakdowns but I won't bother with them.

Yes it's competitively priced (but since it won't make they sell on par with PS4 it could be that it isn't competitive enough). And on X360 being cheaper (than PS3, because Wii was cheaper on MRP) is more because the console was cheaper to make, MS wasn't taking 200 loss per console at any time. So so far I haven't seem in X360, One, Slim and Scorpio MS willing to bleed to make the console sell more than the competitor, so I still don't have any idea where your confidence comes from. Sony being in the red accepted to bleed 200 per unit to accelerate adoption and even dominating the market they cut the price of PS4, MS have done a lot of reactive measures, but I didn't see they ready to bleed 200 per console to win the race.

The cost of a Bluray drive isnt the same as an expensive Bluray player. Those expensive players were being sold at a large profit for early adopters.

I believe PS3 was primarily bleeding on the cost of the Cell. I mean they were being used as cheap super computers.

In regard to pricing, I think MS is willing to be more competitive than Sony. I didnt claim they were willing to lose hundreds on every console sold