Veknoid_Outcast said:
Qwark said:
Professional reviews a way more reliable than user reviews and they are defenitly more objective than 95% of the user reviews which are either a 10 or a 0. Sales, professional reviews and GOTY awards do determine whether a game is good, mediocre or bad. If you or I feel the same about a game as another discussion entirely.
I in general am not a fan of FF games I even did not like the seventh installment, neither am I a fan of the Pikmin series. But objectively speaking those are good to great games, due to it scores good for all (mostly) objective parameters. Whether a game is good or bad is determined by the reception of the game and how it will be remembered.
I doubt anyone can give a legit reason to trash Uncharted 3 or final fantasy 7 and claim it is a bad game for the masses. That's why professional reviews which are targeted at the masses are way more reliable than fanboys and haters which either give a game 10/10 and in COD is case a 0/0 purely to trash a game. A user review is purely an opinion, while professional reviews are written by professionals which contains multiple pages and explain exactly what the pro's and cons are of the game even if the reviewer in case doesn't value those points for its own experience. A proffesional review score is nearly always fully explained, most scores on metacritic are not. For instance some professional reviewers don't have a problem with an 8 hour run, but will still put it as a con leading to a lower score. That objectivity lacks by 95% of the user reviews.
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So, you're saying that popularity and quality are directly related? That the more popular a game is, the better it is? Or that the more popular in critical circles it is, the better it is?
And are you arguing that a forum user's opinion on a game is purely subjective, but that when he or she is in the employ of a publication or web site, his or her opinion suddenly becomes objective?
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A forum user is not a trained reviewer it isn't it's job and will not spend 4 hours to write the review of a game. Neither will a forum poster consult others for the review, if you value the review of a forumposter over a professional review, be my guest. But I prefer the reviews of pu.nl, dualshockers.com etc. over user reviews any day. A game is objectively good for the masses if it scores good critically and even better if it manages to claim a few awards. A game can become objectively great if there is a concensus among gamers that the game is great. This list includes games like Orcarina of time, Super Mario 64/Galaxy, FF 7, Uncharted 2, GTA 5, Halo 3, the last of us etc.
