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Nem said:
DonFerrari said:

On Plasma and LCD monitor I paid cheap because others before me paid premium so it could develop and drop in price... on 4K I paid very high so in a few years it will probably be a lot cheaper because it hit stream... it's normal for early adopters to get a little burned while helping the technology improve... there are options to it, just waiting, you don't need to complain that something is expensive, you wait until it's affordable to you.

Well it gone from 3-4M to 21M by mandating Online MP payment... I don't like it, but seems like 17-18M people were ok with it, so he is complain only because he can't play without paying and is assuming that the other 19M that haven't signed are the same (while a lot of them could be multi console or shared acc owners).

It's still amazing to me how some of you can't have this conversation without trying to label me as something or trying to make it sound personal. I don't play online on my consoles, even if they have free online play. I don't enjoy any of the online experiences on consoles bar mmo's, but those are on the PC with free online, wich is where i play them.

So, can you try this again without trying to say that i am someone who is very perturbed that he himself doesn't have free online when he does? Perhaps the one/s with a bias isn't me?

It is because it's a scheme and in fact not worth beeing a payed service that i say people are beeing duped. They are duped to think it may have value when it doesn't when you are a casual gamer, wich is the majority. So, yes, i would like to see a fairer system in place and for people to actually see the real worth of what they are paying for. 

Shoot me for wanting better things. That is why i say for some it is too late because they are too deep into cognitive dissonance to bother see it.

Sounds like you were the one getting personal with you condescending tone and your "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. Saying that people are being duped and gullible, you didn't come into this with an open mind, you have got your opinion and your blinkers on. 

If you're are a casual gamer that doesn't like free games on a monthly basis or discounts then the chances are you don't play online. Where do we even stop with this? Say if you bought a PS4 just to play FIFA, did Sony dupe you into buying the hardware? I mean casual gamers should get a discount right? What about Netflix? Monthly sub is the cost of one DVD, I watch 10 films on Netflix but only watch that DVD once, who is being duped here? Remember "there is no service that is worth a monthly fee".