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Teeqoz on 27 June 2016
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pokoko said:
Teeqoz said:

No, what is pretend is saying feminists are only about woman>men. Sure, there are some manhaters and feminazis who are self-proclaimed feminists (even though they aren't), but they are both a) in the minority (by far) and b) by definition not feminists. If you want to include them as feminists because they say they are, okay then, but then you have to keep in mind that they are a tiny minority of feminists. Communism is about a classless society with means of production and transport of products owned by everyone. First of all, China isn't even communist, they only pretend to be (funnily enough, like the feminazis pretend to be feminists), all their actions show that China is capitalistic as fuck. The class mentality is stronger in China than nearly any nation out there, and the means of production and transport are privatively owned. They are about as communistic as the US. North Korea is also not a communist state, but I'm to lazy to go into detail here either. Both countries are riddled with corruption, so whatever ideology they have are irrelevant. The authoritarian regimes are what causes the problems, not their ideology.

That's my entire point.  The reality is all that matters.  I don't care about the fake veneer, I care about the truth.  Feminist groups and organizations only care about women's issues.  I don't think you can argue that.

I once read an article by an older feminist activist who said that when she talked about doing things to help boys in school, the response from her peers was almost total apathy.  I think that says it all.

The reality is that most feminists stand for equal rights. Well, it's either that, or there aren't many feminists on this planet. You don't have to be an "activist" to be a feminist. Activists are more likely to have more radical meanings, because those that don't have radical opinions aren't likely to bother enough to go and and protest or whatever. The feminists I know are just completely normal people who align politically with the statement "men and women should have equal rights and opportunities". Of course, that is anecdotal, but using feminist activist as a representative of the general feminist mindset is erroneous. You don't have to be a femen member to be a feminist.

I do agree however, that feminazis are a problem, both because of their opinions that are out of whack, and also because they detract from feminism by producing "feministhate", just like what has been displayed in this thread, of people who have this misguided view that feminism is only about women>men.