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fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

Capitalism inevitably creates global markets, you can't have it both ways, it's not the 20th century anymore, the world is global and connected and nothing is going to change that, I think people just need to get over that. 

If I'm running a business I don't give a fuck about national soverignty, I will make my product at the lowest cost where I can get it so I can maximize my profit and I want access to the global market, not just 1 or 2 markets. 

That's the way of the world now, and it was inevitable. 

Global markets are fine, what's not fine is global governing bodies like the EU and the UN ... 

If I live in a nation where's there's democracy I come to expect having national sovereignty ... 

The dollar rules all, that's the bottom line. If you have a global market, then you have an interconnected world, that's just how it's going to be. National soverignty in the context of how it is in the 18/19th/20th centuries really does not function in the same way anymore. The world is globally connected now and that genie is never going back into the lamp unless we lose all our technology. And that's only going to accelerate, this is the natural evolution of humanity, on a meta-scale eventually we'll leave this planet. 

Capitalism is the biggest driver of globalism in the world though there's no doubt it.