Peh said:
Teeqoz said:
Well, what I'm saying is that from each individual human's perspective, it appears like you have free will. We think we are in control of our own actions. But in reality, it's all a result other factors, so we aren't in control.
FYI, the reason that we can't determine exactly what the universe will look like after any given time isn't due to free will existing. It's due to the universe being undeterministic in nature, thanks to quantum physics. Like I stated in the OP, us not having free will does not mean we are on a set path to a set, definite outcome, it just means we can't choose the path nor the outcome.
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I personally have a real issue accepting undeterminism in quantum physics. I see quantum physics still deterministic, but humans are incapable of detemining it. I am aware of the double split experiment. How do you want to get data on a force without manipulating it?
It's the same with measurements in electricity, the moment you want to see the value of the current, you'll change it by measurement. It has not a big impact if you work with big values, but when it comes to single particles. Things get difficult.
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Look up Bohmian quantum physics. 
