bunchanumbers said:
The spoiled part of her was killed when Ned Stark was beheaded. Her pride was taken away from her when she was stripped and beaten in the royal court and forced to marry into the family that killed her father. The 2 worst villains in this world told her how the world is. She has shown courage. When she finally escaped from Winterfell from the man who beat her, cut her, and raped her and treated her like a plaything. She has done things the spoiled child wouldn't have done because she still thought she was a weak, scared little girl. I never said she was a hero. But She isn't a villain. She just sees how the GoT world really works now. She is finally prepared to play the game. |
I don't think you're getting my point. She WAS spoiled, and proud. Those are not positive traits.
It doesn't take bravery to ask someone help you escape. She did what she had to, and it was self-serving.
Anyway, I digress. Let's agree to disagree. I've seen enough dramatic series to have a good idea that this is a character circling the drain. Maybe I'm just shit at explaining why the actions of Sansa crossed the line, but I'll just let the show play out instead of arguing. I'm almost 100% sure she's turned. I'll admit, it's very early stages, but I know that writers, especially fantasy type writers, do things very purposefully. The way she killed him has meaning, it's not just there as fan-service, it's simply just meant to *seem* that way. If something in a book ever just seems like, 'eh, it's just the way it happened', there's more to it. Everything in GoT has been set up very precisely. Yara back in season 2 foreshadowed Theons castration, and he did himself at winterfell. Ramsay was foreshadowed a whole season before we met him. Ned and Roberts deaths are given away when they find the direwolf dead with a stag in its jaw. Each direwolves death has symbolic meaning, they all die at times of major plot changes. Jaime in episode 2 talks about how he'd rather die than be a cripple. Or how Bran has visions through the eyes of a wolf, and a raven and then 4 seasons later we find out he's a warg. Or how Dany stepped into scalding hot bath before we even realized that fire doesn't hurt "dragons".
The thing is in stories like this is, you're meant to simply gloss over things and solve them with simple logic or character flaws. It's like The Hound's "death". Everyone who understands the series KNEW, "no head, not dead". If you didn't know how he writes, you'd simply just imagine that Arya left him to die. It's also obvious that their paths are going to cross again. It makes for good drama.
The difference between a show you watch on tv, and a show that's based on a completely written out storyboard, is that the things they do hint strongly at things to come. It's VERY deliberate in how things play out. Theon losing his cock, the way Tywin died (everyone talks about him shitting gold), even Jorah getting grayscale is going to lead to something important that's already been planned out. Him getting greyscale wasn't just "that's the way things happen in got". It's a plot device.
The entire scene of Sansa killing him, the whole thing, the battle, etc, was very deliberate. And it wasn't meant to show her as a tactical genius. It was meant to show that she hid things from Jon, used him as bait, brutally killed Ramsay and smiled about it.
Agh....I said I wouldn't argue and there I went lol.
Whatever, you'll understand when it happens.
