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Teeqoz said:

 

I've played some good Spider-Man games in the past under Activision on the GBA, PS and Xbox, it's not like every single Spider-Man game was objectively terrible in every single way.

I'm sure some of the licensed games Activision has made were decent, but they have time in and time out demostrated a lack of interest in making their licensed IPs any more than low-budget games with little time and effort put into them.

I'm not sure how the results would appear if someone else took over the project though, this gen seems to be doom and gloom if someone besides Sony takes on something, at least from a VGC perspective.

What you mean is from "a VGC perspective" doesn't matter in this discussion. I'm not discussing from "a VGC perspective", I'm discussing from my perspective, and I haven't said anything like "this gen seems to be doom and gloom if someone besides Sony takes on something". If you want to discuss about what you feel is the general consensus on VGC is, go ahead, but it doesn't belong in this discussion between us two where we are discussing our own opinions, not VGC's.

Not really no,

Wait, so you are saying that you weren't (aren't) putting words in my mouth? Let's take a look at what I said:

Teeqoz said:

I'll take a (hopefully) great exclusive over a crappy multiplat any day of the week. If all games were multiplat, but shit, that would be way worse than if all games were exclusive, but great. I'm not saying multiplat games are shit

 

And let's take a look at what you replied back to me [And I'm adding some comments of my own]:

Chazore said:

Not all multiplats are shit or terrible though

Indeed they aren't, and I never claimed them to be either (so I wonder why even bothered to bring it up). I even specified "I'm not saying multiplat games are shit", jsut in case yu for some reason would misinterpret me.

all games being exclusive to just one platform sounds like a totlarian nightmare to me

Yup. We agree. I never said otherwise though, so again, not sure why you brought it up.

no choice at all but to obey and buy the one system, to you that sounds likely like a wet dream but to me it's far, far worse

(I bolded a thing you said that I wanted to emphasize). @The bolded, where on earth did you get it from that it's "likely a wet dream" to me that all games are exclusive to one platform? I NEVER said anything close to that. I just said that I prefer good exclusives over bad multiplats. I also prefer good multiplats over bad exclusives. In general, I prefer good games over bad games, regardless of if they are exclusive or multiplat. But yeah, you totally didn't put words in my mouth. You just assigned me opinions that I don't have, and that there was no sign that even suggested that I did have.

 

you made it sound like multiplats are worse fof compared to exclusives

Not really, no. I said that I prefer good exclusives over bad multiplats. That's it.

that to me tells me you dislike having exclusive value displaced by value that can be had by more people on different systems.

You're continuing with assigning me opinions that I don't have I see.... moving on

I don't mind either but I certainly don't prefer a limitation to take over what everyone else could have. If you want to shutdown this debate with fallacy callings then by all means do (it seems to be heading that way).

I'm not trying to shut down this debate. But yes, when you are assigning me opinions that I don't have, then I will call you out on it. If you don't want your strawman fallacy to be called out, I suggest you go discuss with someone else.

I don't know why it would take anything away from anyone ever at all, I mean if Sony can do it then anyone else could without taking away from anyone in the process, unless of course there are some unwritten rules in place that I'm unaware of that describe as something being taken away when someone else decides to take a Hero under their wing.

It wouldn't take anything away from anyone, unless either of the big three were to moneyhat Batman Arkham, since that is an established multiplat franchise were WB games has shown that they give it the budget it requires, and don't just half-ass it and give it to a no-name studio (with the unfortunate exception of the PC port, where that was exactly what WB games did). That's why I specified that. No special rules for Sony, if that's what you were implying.

It's Star Citizen, a game that's still being created like other games that were showcased every few E3's with props given to them, funding and all but hardly much given to Roberts, I only half agree because not all kudos are given a lot of the time where they are due.

 

Oh, I've heard of Star Citizen. Didn't know the studio behind it was called Space Industries and that it was led by Robert though. But yes, kudos to all those that provided funding to such an ambitious project as Star Citizen. I don't see how this means that we disagree on this point though. Unfortunately, not all games and devs get the creds they deserve, but then again, I didn't say that they always did.