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Zekkyou said:
Azzanation said:

Its not about power. XB1s will be the cheapest 4k player on the market which will appeal to many when buying TVs etc. The Neo will be a more expensive device. For none gamers the X1s is heaps more attractive and will most likely dominate thst area. The Scopio will be its own thing since it will not only out power the Neo but will possibly be the leading 4k machine when it comes to quality. 

Your looking at it as a gamers view. Im looking at it on a wider scale. One of the key reasons the PS3 managed to sell well was due to its Blu Ray player which was affordable to many new buyers for Full HD TVs. Many none gamers brought a PS3 for there entertainment system. I see the X1s doing the same thing.

4k is a new market. I also dont think the Neo or the Scorpio will sell heaps. 

The bolded doesn't really clear things up for me; you're still making partially reversed arguments for the Neo vs X1S, and the Neo vs Scorpio. You say it's not about power, and yet you state the Scorpio being stronger (it currently seems to be to a similar degree as the PS4 is stronger than the X1) as a reason why it'll be its "own thing". You also acknowledge that the X1S's cheaper price will help it, yet don't seem to think it'll matter for the Neo vs Scorpio (i'm basing that assumption on you still not mentioning it even after i have).

I agree the X1S will be more attractive for none-gamers (though with how small the physical 4k media market is right now, i'd say both the standard PS4 and X1 have the real advantage here), but that doesn't address the above. You seem to think price and power are only an advantage for one side of the battle. That obviously doesn't make any sense, so i was hoping for clarification. 

With the Xbox Slim coming out in a couple months, it’s going to overshadow both Neo and Scorpio on the price. The 4k market is new and the general public will find the slim the better choice since you can still play current gen games on it plus have a affordable 4k player for their 4k TVs. The Scorpio will be released with no counterpart in 2017 since by then the Neo will be well over a year old (rumoured). Sony will have to release a Neo V2 to compete with it or the Neo will fall short on price with the X1 Slim and won’t be the best premium console on the market due to Scorpio.

Either way I don’t see the Neo or the Scorpio selling well due to the Slim with its general approach to the market and offering the budget basement system. The PS4 can’t play 4k movies which gives a big advantage to the X1S and the Neo will be more expensive then the Slim which puts it in an awkward middle ground. The Scorpio will most likely release with no competition since I can’t see Sony releasing a V2 Neo next year.

Don’t get me wrong here. The Scorpio won’t sell well even with no competition coming out in 2017. The Neo has a fight on its hands with the X1S because there both aiming to win over the 4k buyers. And I am not talking about gaming only, none gamers will look at both the Neo and Slim however the Slim has a major advantage and that will be the price point. The Slim reminds me of the PS2 when the price dropped. The PS2 was so cheap it continued to sell due to it being an affordable DvD player for many homes. Why buy a standalone DvD player when you can get a PS2 with one built it for a super cheap price... Same goes for the Slim, why buy a standalone 4k player when the Slim has one built in at a very cheap price and you get a modern console with all the future apps.

Budget Basement systems will also sell better then Premium model systems, especially when they both do the same things.