| Tlozjb said: Call them excuses if you want, but they failed in certain keypoints, and so their consoles diminished in sales, we may not know hat would had happened if alll went well. Maybe they would had still fallen, but not so drastically gen per gen. Focus on one game that ended being the biggest talk of this E3 and had the attendees going full on wild for the first time in 10 years. Reggie indeed said that, but this begs the question, he did say spec matter, but from what PoV was he looking it at from? That it doesn't matter that NX doesn't match PS4 and X1 or that it doesn't matter if NX doesn't amtch Neo and Scorpio? If the former, then it will go bad, but if the latter, which is the most probable seeing how he mainly mentioned Teraflops the main point of the Scorpio spec uprade, then he is right, NX doesn't need to be like that, it just needs to have good content, and at minimum match PS4 when it comes to power. |
PS1 was a new competitor into the market and managed to outsell Nintendo 3:1 then again 6:1. There's minor oversights and improvements you can make for next time, but when you're getting outsold over 3 times over by a new competitor then something is fundamentally wrong with your decision making process.
Ubisoft also said that it will recapture the casual audience. Rather than right their wrongs and make a console on par with current gen power along with up to date online, standard controller, and third party support, it appears they are again trying to capture lightning in a bottle and capture an audience that has moved on. Nintendo just seems grossly incompetent as a company, and I don't think based on the plethora of rumors and leaks that we have, along with the trend of Nintendo console sales, that there is any reasonable chance of NX being a success.
| zorg1000 said: Im sorry that you lack any form of comprehension, we are not talking about how they are doing now, i was simply pointing out an incorrect statement in your original post, that Nintendo has been in constant decline since NES, that is factually untrue. They are currently in a state of decline but in order for your original statement to be true than the period of 1990-2005 would have also had to be in decline, it wasnt, hence your original statement was incorrect. If this is too complicated for you to understand than save yourself some time and just leave the discussion. |
I'm talking hardware sales, and I said Wii was the exception where they targeted a new audience and were the hot fad, but that audience has no loyalty towards Nintendo and simply doesn't care about them and has moved on.
| tak13 said: Has been relying on where? Most of the things you mentioned haven't even started ( not even mobile, since miitomo doesn't count, it's a weird social game, wait for the real games, from major Nintendo ips ) ! Nintendo is still profiting by 90% on its traditional buisness... Do you have a problem that Nintendo is finally doing the right move of being diversified? Anyway! So by your logic, ps3 is a commercial failure and playstation was dying since its predecessor sold 155m+? No it's not, it just fell back to the normal! Let me surprise you, Wii isn't the first console with casual gamers/ non previously gamers... And who cares for the unfair 3ds vs ds comparison? Only people who want to draw a negative picture for Nintendo's handheld consoles buisness or to support their irrational notion, of handhelds consoles or rather Nintendo's handhelds consoles ( since Nintendo's only the true representative of handheld gaming ) being dead ( Selling 70m+ and being the second best selling gaming device of the gen, is far from dead) ! Furthemore,, the only handheld console before ds, was gba ,which sold 81.5m, its succcessor sold almost double of its predecessor sales, having a rival that sold about the same with it s rival's predecessor, what happend suddenly and the market grow so extremely? These seem to be regular for you? As they grew, thus they dwindled! However, that's not death level, more like normalization level! Maybe Nintendo's next handheld consoles sales could refute that for bad or even for good. Αt the end If handheld gaming is dying, you and all others who exaggerate with this topic, let it to be proved with Nintendo's next handheld console, if it sells fairly under 3ds... Conclusions by now are premature and msiguided when the metric of them is the ds vs 3ds comparison! The real problem is in the USA where 3ds is a lot down compared to gba but still having quite high sales. P.s Friendly advice, be careful with what you read on the internet! DOOOOOOOOM! |
Over 18% Nintendo's revenue came from IP income, royalties, and smart devices as well as another 10% from amiibos, accesories, etc. (Source: https://zhugeex.com/2016/04/nintendo-fy-2015-report-in-transition/)
And yes, 3DS sales are bad, it had very poor legs and mobile ate its lunch. The doom and gloom about mobile killing consoles was a load of BS, but that can't be said for handheld, and I'll gladly eat my crow if Nintendo releases a handheld that sells more than the 3DS but the odds of that happening in this competitive and volatile mobile/handheld market are slim to none, only in Japan is handheld gaming doing well.
Also, PS3 was a massive financial failure, and it's really quite commendable how Sony turned things around and achieved profitability, but they have the marketshare and third party relationships to do this. PS3 was a failure due to their own decisions regarding hardware that caused them to lose big on each console sale, not because they are becoming increasingly irrelevant in the market. If Sony released another PS3 level failure this gen, there would be no PS5.
