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tak13 said:
bigtakilla said:

It is a small issue. Do you think a console that literally would have been only marginally better than the PS3 with nothing else to offer would have sold any better with no software and the crappy advertising it had? Hahahahahah!

Yeah, it could have outsold gc and earned the sufficient profits of it! Nintendo due to the tablet  lost money for 1 year and a half ( even if the losses were bearable, they had never lost money anytime before )...Hence, regardless the sales, wii u could be profitable from the beginning and bigger money maker without the gamepad!

Wii u could be stronger than ps4 a but thanks to the tablet it would cost 500$+! Would people  buy it because of the robust specs? hahaha Then just remember ps3's  low sales in its first years because of the excessive price ( plus,  the huge money bleeding for sony after the essential  price drops-selling at a big loss, due to some specific expensive components! )

Excuse me, but you can't seriously say that the existence of the costly tablet is a small issue! However, lets say that wii u overly high price isn't its big problem, the  100$ of the gamepad could be spend to make wii u more powerful! As for the fact that is marginally better than a ps3, that was just to get decent third party support ( as Iwata had admitted, so they could have make it weaker ), while it didn't, maybe gamepad has to do something with that? Eh?

 

And there's always  the paradigm of xboxne+ kinect!  Xbox one, in spite of  being strong and having third party support, was selling  like the wii u ( or even lower than it, when mario kart 8 was released and increased wii u sales), when it was exclusively  bundled with kinect.  

Microsoft was intelligent and made the felicitous move of dropping it early , automatically xbox one price fell by 100$ and sales skyrocketed! What can you say about that?

When you have such problems ( those that you mentioned ) you can at least offer your product at an affordable price,  ( Nintendo couldn't, owing to the tablet ), to make the things less bad, combining these issues with the product being overpriced/expensive ( especially, when your're home consoles are deemed as the second choice ) is disastrous ! 

When the Wii U did get third party support, it sold like crap, didn't get DLC or special editions, ect and the third party jumped ship. No, being a little more powerful would have resulted in the same situation it is in now. People expecting 3rd parties on NX to somehow magically sell any better are in for a surprise. 

And no, if you got a console you don't have games for, dropping the price isn't going to do crap. Look at the Vita.