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Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

I think you know you can't win on that point. And honestly I would definitely be down to go to a rocket launcher range, guns are lame by comparison. So why can't we have rocket launchers? 

 It's a mute point because that no one has brought up wanting those things in a serious way. We're talking about semi-auto guns not grenades and bazookas but you know that. *Rolls eyes  Could you stop exaggerating?

The 2nd ammendment technically doesn't specify guns it says "right to bear and keep arms", so why then are there arbitrary lines? Why not allow citizens to purchase say a grenade launcher? The reason why is some dumb fuck could take that and level a city block with it, so we don't allow it. The point is the 2nd ammendment is not a be all end all for anyone to have to right to own whatever they want, we have limitations already that even probably the most nutjob NRA types would agree with. 

If there are arbitrary lines based on common sense, then maybe it is common sense that some random guy off the street should not be able to purchase an assualt weapon like an AR-15 that's so powerful that it can overwhelm even an armed police officer sitting infront of a night club and kill 50 people in a matter of minutes. 

Apparently there were actually *two* armed off duty cops sitting outside this club and they couldn't do jack shit to stop this guy because he had a weapon that they were completely ineffective in countering. And if it's just down to "bad people with bad minds" then why does the US have so many more disturbed individuals versus other 1st world countries? It must just be a coincidence that the most country with the most guns has (shock and awe) the most gun violence.