Florida Pulse gay club attacked.

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Aeolus451 said:

Soundwave said:

He would not have been able to kill probably even 70% of those people if he didn't have access to an AR-15. There was an ARMED off duty police officer at the front of the club, he couldn't do anything to stop this guy because he was overwhlemed by the amount of fire power the guy had. 

That's completely false. He could have used a bomb, poisons/type of chemical to kill probably even more americans without being able to catch him easily. If someone wants to commit mass murder or acts of terrorism, they'll learn of different ways to do so even if you take all of the guns in the world away. People can't be disarmed to the point where murder or mass murder is no longer commited. It's truly a fantasy to think otherwise. 

Guns are just the most convenient way to kill another person but not the most effective. A ban of guns would not translate to a safer america or world because the root problem is not being addressed in most cases. For example, street violence is commited by people with a certain mindset that justifies it and a way of life that condones it, that breeds more individuals with a similar way of thinking. If you want less street violence, the individuals behind it, their mindset has to be changed one way or another. Same thing with islamic extremism or religous extremism. 

Which way would prevent further attacks like the one in orlando from happening, banning some semi-auto rifles or changing/forcibly removing the belief system of that guy that justified his actions in his mind? Which way would bear the most fruit world wide?

Well, for one no civilized country in the world has the gun problems the US has, the US has more gun violence than like all of Europe and Canada and Australia and Japan combined despite having a lower population. 

So if it doesn't make one bit of difference, why not allow people to purchase bazookas or rocket launchers? I've never really been a gun guy, but a bazooka seems pretty cool, that would fall under the "right to bear arms", why not allow people to carry say a rocket launcher? Or grenades?  

We don't even know what belief system this guy had in his head, it sounds like he had serious issues with his own sexuality and this may have more in common with just a standard mass shooting, I mean who spends 3 years going a gay bar on a monthly basis just to "case" the place? How exactly are you going to "forcibly remove a belief system" from someone's mind? Good luck with that if they're mentally ill on top of that.