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JetSetter said:
Aquamarine said:

The only reason the N64 and GameCube didn't do as well as they could have....is because they went with expensive cartridges and mini-DVDs.

If they had industry-standard CDs for the N64 and regular DVDs for the GameCube they would have been extremely influential in the 5th and 6th gen.

The GameCube is still doing far better than the Wii U....both in terms of third-party support and worldwide sales. And, Nintendo made a nice profit with the GameCube as well.

It could have been a different story if the choices were made differently in those regards, but I was talking more so from the specs approach (but you do make a very valid point). Also the fact that the Wii U barely got any third party support shows some of the realities of the market. The flocking of big name publishers like EA and Activision to the other consoles, plus the complete dissapperance of the "B market", plus the reduction of risk-taking has really robbed Nintendo of getting any software selling (that isn't theirs) on the Wii U. Given these circumstances, I feel as though a beefed up as hell console might not be the answer to Nintendo's prayers. 

Well it's too late now for both of them. 

Sony and MS to me look pretty entrenched in the traditional market and now that they're offering iterative systems there's not even room for Nintendo to release a traditional console that would've been a decent amount better than the PS4 and gain traction from that, because both Sony/MS are going for 4+ TFLOP machines. 

It's just a pissing match Nintendo can't win. 

Besides that the industry is too different nowadays. Nintendo has too many cartoony franchises to be taken seriously as the defacto market leader unfortunately. 

Nintendo is like the 1970s Superman when everyone is into things like Deadpool and Iron Man and Batfleck. Nintendo's too sweet for what the industry has turned itself into.