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Mixed reactions as expected. But one thing everyone seems to agree on and i said this in my original post, is that it depends on size and distance.

At about 10ft, on both 50" TVs calibrated using settings i copied from AVS forums, i couldn't tell the difference on the same pictured images doing a "shut eye test" (shut your eyes fir 5 secs then open it and see which image pops)

Going to around 5ft i could see the difference in displays, the 1080p starting to show a screendoor effect on scrutiny. You could start making out the pixels but the 4k TV still looked as clesr as it was at 10ft.

At about 3ft away the pixel on the 1080p were absolutely clear, sharp even.... and i could start making them out on the 4k tv.

This is why i say its a scam, its totally dependent on the size of your tv and the distance you sit from it. Its not like i'm not getting or going to get a 4k tv (or projector since i don't do TVs) and for me it would be even more useful since my screen size is in the 110" range. Just something i noticed.

And pls, those here that wanna derail this thread and start talking about neo or scorpio and all that nonsense please just stop.

Both TVs were 2015 Sony TVs by the way. I didnt play videos it was a selection of images