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Lrdfancypants said:
Are eithers actual specs even confirmed beyond MS saying its target is 6 tflops and Sony saying yes a new console is in the works?

They could be launching essentially the same machine for all we know.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-sonys-plan-for-playstation-4k-neo-revealed

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis

Some documentation, some educated speculation.

Scisca said:
Guys, the GPU Scorpio is bound to have is $199 at retail now!! In 18 months it's going to be dirst cheap for MS buying in bulk. Mark my words, they saw with Xbone that $499 is too much and they'll easily hit $399.
8 Core Zen processor, probably the full version of Polaris 10 (with 40 CUs and 2560 SPs), aroung 12 GB of RAM - all forming a perfect APU and boom. You have a monster for $399. Maximum $449.

Topping 6tflops in a console is expected to require a Vega gpu (why it's still so far out), not Polaris and not the 480, whatever it's capable of with a good desktop setup. Pairing that with a Zen cpu would be seriously costly and they would have bragged about it too if they were using it. Really doubt we'll see it debut at $450 or lower unless they want to eat a big loss.