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BraLoD said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Am I not get my point across properly or am I the retarded one? 

Discussing AC4:BF is a new IP is very pointless, it's not only an AC game, but also one of mainline ones, even numbered.
Seems like you guys are discussing more opinions over subjective views of different takes on series entries and spiritual sucessors, which will make some stuff sound right even if it's objectively wrong, as calling AC4:BF a new IP, it's objectively wrong, but you could added on that, but if you two aren't having the same conversation and each is taking it from a different way, it's utterly pointless, for both sides, even as if you are going for an objectively right side, if that's not what is being discussed, then being right won't solve the discussion, so just let it go.

AC:BF was just an example(though maybe not the best one) of a game in a series that introduced new gameplay elements, however even if named completely different it would still clearly be an AC game. I was just explaining that Bloodborne is very in line with the Souls games, and you clearly stated in the OP that those don't count just like The Last Guardian. But i guess he didn't take the time to read that.

I'm also hyped for Horizon btw so didn't want to derail you're thread there sorry. :-p