President of Gambia plans to kill off every single homosexual

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The Ghost of RubangB said:

HappySqurriel said:

Just to play devils advocate on the Church vs. State nature of marriage ...

Until King Henry the 8th renounced Catholicism and created the Anglican Church in order to divorce his wife marriage was the exclusive domain of the church; you could say that from the very begining the state took control of the institution of marriage in order to destroy it.

Now, an important question to ask is "why does the state have any right to say who can or can not be married?" Seriously, how does it benefit you to have the state say that you are or are not married? The legal implications of marriage are already covered by common-law unions in many states and countries, and could even be covered by joint property contracts and other contracts that would not attempt to force you into any particular definition of marriage; in this way people who choose to live in any form of alternative lifestyle can still share all of the rights of marriage without having to fight to have the definition changed.

It's simply not equal rights. Straight people just get married. Gay people now need all kinds of joint property contracts and wills and blah blah blah, all kinds of legal hoops to jump through, just for being born different. Now if religions want to be bigoted as all hell and give certain people more hoops, that's fine. The law isn't supposed to do that.

Actually, as I pointed out before, there's nothing restricting gay people from getting married. If a gay man and a gay woman want to get married to each other, they can do that. heck, even a straight man and a straight woman don't have to like each other to get married. However marriage has been defined as a union between a man and a woman.

It's like saying "well, I have a right to bear arms under the constitution, but instead of that meaning to own weapons, I want it to mean owning illegal drugs"

Sorry, but that's basically what it boils down to. I can get married to any woman I want(provided she okays it), but if I didn't find a woman I liked, I could either get married to a woman I didn't like, or not get married at all. A gay man has the same choices I do.