konnichiwa said:
Slimebeast said:
He just happened to have parents who migrated from the Islamic world.
Your claim is ridiculous. It's as if you haven't even heard about the terrorist attacks in France and Belgium, commited by immigrants and their children.
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As a Belgian myself I feel like I should react to this. Why are you so negative? Is the situation in Sweden that bad?
I live in a country that 30 years ago stated that gay marriage should not be possible but in 2002 made it legal and instead of being proud to be the second country in the world to do so I feel rather ashamed that it took so long. What I remember from that time is that they reported 95% of the muslim community was against it/That Sharia4Belgium was against it and were tolerated by the muslim community in my city of Antwerp. That the Mister gay election was disrupted by muslims demonstrations... That the muslim community were disrepectfull and even some respected 9/11, that Jews were scared and the idea of an exodus to Israel was on its way that my city Antwerp will have a majoriy of muslims and yeah I was worried they were even planning to ban headscarfs for shop workers in my city.... I joined this site in 2007 and you can still find some negative comments about me on the situation.
But If I look back and see that now less than 60% of the muslim community is against gay marriage, that this year Mister Gay election had almost a winner who was muslim and surprising their were no muslim protest (except for some facebook hate comments), I saw that the muslim community started to mass report Sharia4Belgium to the police and the organisation and radicals left the city cause it became to hard to win souls over. The jew community and Muslim community are sharing parties/projects together and the Jewish community is on it's way to grow again (and this in a city with (almost) an Muslim Majority. And I am surprised to see that the number of girls wearing a headscarf has drapped massively, in fact the majority of wearing them are converts.
It became all personal for me because I now have a half sister who is muslim and has a father who is an immigrant himself, her best friend came out and admitted she is an lesbian/bisexual and she and her friends all accepted her they even laughed with the idea that she was scared, I see my half sister not following ramadan/eating halal meat and enjoying the freedom of follwing Islam her own way and doing what she want and I see so many examples of her...
Sure their are still issues like almost 60% against gay marriage but I see progression and I believe that the number of people being against it will go down... it is clear for me that the Muslim community in belgium is changing for the better and that their is postive progression. I can easy be negative like I was before and post that the marjority of muslims against gay marriage but I find it immportant to reflect on it and see progression.
So the situation is all different in Sweden? I thought Sweden would be doing way better but I admit I not live in Sweden.
But then I see
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Did I say anything about muslims and homosexuality? No.
He claimed that it had nothing to do with immigration because the shooter was American. I only set it straight about the clear connection, that it matters that he had immigrant parents and was a muslim himself, just like the terrorists in France and Belgium were immigrants or children of immigrants. There's a clear pattern - muslims with immigrant background.
The things you tell about the integration in Belgium, it's interesting but it makes me damn ashamed to be a European. We should never have accepted these attitudes in the first place.
